And what criteria is being used? Is Novartis at risk by not providing and making transparent criteria used to validate these decisions?
ARE DM's CHOOSING WHO STAYS & WHO GOES?
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The managing directors are the ones who are making those decisions. They make the decisions based on profit/loss critera. Lawsuit waiting to happen.
What part of "employment at will" don't you understand?
Why a layoff? Because the reps you ride with 8 times a quarter don't have enough drs to see with appointments and without appt it's a sig and five words like"don't forget diovan" then in the car you the dm blah blahs about what you coulda woulda shoulda done to really "drive the business" with that call. You agree and eagerly await the end of your day with a fake pleasant expression on your face. A person -- a dm working a job even more pathetic than field sales -- is waiting for his own layoff call a week before the spreadsheet comes to announce rep alignments. Dms have absolutely zero power in this.
There is a difference between at will employment and discrimination- Duh!
DMs ranked the reps in the last layoff. They were asked by the MD to decide who they wanted to keep and let go.
So not true. Reps may have been ranked but had nothing to do with layoff
Look at all the managers demoted. Many top ranked reps are gone
Get real...outside company comes in looks at certain variables and then issues the orders
They were ranked by who they wanted to keep. NOT how they ranked in their numbers. This is a FACT for the last layoff!!
Absolutely true. Some people who had 1's on their review stayed while direct counterparts who also had 1's were let go. It tended to be older reps with much more tenure with the company were let go. They used different reasons/excuses such as customer overlap which people just believed to be accurate.
Maybe this happend in some area but even though reps were ranked it does not mean
this is what was used.
I know a manager who loved a certain rep and Im sure would have ranked her high and she is gone. So how would you explain that.
It may have been 1 variable but there were certainly others that were looked at
this is what was used.
I know a manager who loved a certain rep and Im sure would have ranked her high and she is gone. So how would you explain that.
It may have been 1 variable but there were certainly others that were looked at
From my understanding, managers just ranked their reps again last week. I'm hoping to be at the bottom, get laid off, and collect a good severance. 
From my understanding, managers just ranked their reps again last week. I'm hoping to be at the bottom, get laid off, and collect a good severance.
Yes, as well as previously laid off reps from Novartis who are actively looking for opening in Novartis, i.e. Xolair. Time to make a career change.
Look when are you going to understand that the layoffs had nothing to do with performance but cutting overhead to improve OU bottom line. People were selected based on tenure, salary, if you were owed pension etc. Most of the long term employees were too expensive to keep on. Had nothing to do with how successful you were. The sad thing is those decisions were made by people who two or three years ago were not even employees here. They could give a crap about how many awards you won, what your ratings were, how long you were employed by the organization, all they cared about was lining their own pockets. If you got a nice package and retired if eligible you probably came out okay, I feel sorry for the young people who bought into the BS and Kool aid that Novartis sold at meetings. THE PLACE TO BE is now THE PLACE TO FORGET. No one is happy working there and everyone is waiting for the place to implode.
You hit it right on the nail! It's all about profit/Loss for the OU.
The "New" Alcon layoff at corp. level will probably be about age, which will be classified as age discrimination. There will be a large class action suit, so everyone please join in! I know of one department that has more supervisiors and managers than actually working employees (per ratio). These managers/supervisors only manage by intimidation and retaliation. It's sad that the majority of the things written on this forum is true, but continues to fall upon deaf ears. Hopefully, Novartis will do a full investigation on all the complaints against Alcon managers, supervisiors, directors, DM's, etc. PLEASE review their personnel file and review all the complaints, before letting them decide who goes and who stays! This could be an excellent place to work......
Look..DM nor RDs make the decisions as to who stays or who goes. Fact is the DMs get a call 1 day before you do. They find out if they have a job and where they were placed, then they get a list of who stays and goes.. They have no decision in the process.
The same goes with the RDs..They get the call and list 1 or 2 days before the DMs.
I'm not sure who does make the decision, it may be a computer that spits it out, it may be HR..but it isn't the DMs and the RDs.
The same goes with the RDs..They get the call and list 1 or 2 days before the DMs.
I'm not sure who does make the decision, it may be a computer that spits it out, it may be HR..but it isn't the DMs and the RDs.
Your right DM's and RD's are at best lackeys...useless levels of management.
It can still be discrimination based on the "computer decision" , because someone gives the parameters and programming. The "computer" excuse is just to try and pass the buck and avoid responsibility.
It can still be discrimination based on the "computer decision" , because someone gives the parameters and programming. The "computer" excuse is just to try and pass the buck and avoid responsibility.