Animal Health vs. Pharmaceutical Sales Rep

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We continue to believe that Pfizer will struggle to grow revenue and EPS for the long term, despite the additional boost that Wyeth will provide. The recently weak performance of Lipitor and the Animal Health business, two of Pfizer's few bright spots, has also prompted us to trim our nearer-term growth forecasts.
 






Anonymous said:
We continue to believe that Pfizer will struggle to grow revenue and EPS for the long term, despite the additional boost that Wyeth will provide. The recently weak performance of Lipitor and the Animal Health business, two of Pfizer's few bright spots, has also prompted us to trim our nearer-term growth forecasts.
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The problem is that at one time many reps thought the same ways as you do but the industry has changed. It is so much more difficult to do anything for the doctors nowadays. There is so much red tape and internal political bs in this industry. In an ideal world we would be doing what we feel is right for our clients and their patients but we're not. It's all about the dollar, and with the current economy, how to keep our jobs. I wasn't around then but from what I've heard this was a great industry 10 to 15 years ago. Well...it is no longer that my friend. Stay away...
 






I am currently working in a veterinary clinic as a Liscensed Veterinary Technician. I am very good with clients and also good at dealing with the vets. I am looking to get into the animal pharmaceutical industry. I do enjoy being in clinic but the pay is frankly pretty sad. I thought the pharm industry would be good for me since I am intelligent and a good people person. Does anyone have any good advice on how to land a job? Most everything I look at required b2b sales. I have plenty of in clinic sales to clients but no b2b. Any sincere help would be appreciated. Thanks.
 












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I am currently working in a veterinary clinic as a Liscensed Veterinary Technician. I am very good with clients and also good at dealing with the vets. I am looking to get into the animal pharmaceutical industry. I do enjoy being in clinic but the pay is frankly pretty sad. I thought the pharm industry would be good for me since I am intelligent and a good people person. Does anyone have any good advice on how to land a job? Most everything I look at required b2b sales. I have plenty of in clinic sales to clients but no b2b. Any sincere help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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First having a vet tech license will get you nowhere... you need a BA or BS. Second, run dont walk from pharma sales, it is a mill. They will use you for a year or two then lay you off. When you go to look for another job, everyone will laugh in your face because they think you are not a "real" sales person.
 






Anonymous said:
Wow, Pfizer really hires the educationally challanged.

The correct english usage would not be "I am uploading the order I sold today". It would be "I am uploading the order I took." Took is the operative word.

Keep telling yourself you are better than us. We will keep laughing in your face. In the morning, we will get up and go into clincis with respect and our heads hung high. We know what we do, we make more money for clinics. We are a resource for them.

You can wake up and know that you can keep hiding in your cluster. They give you teammates because they don't trust you to get the job done. Keep delivering Lunches/samples begging for a signature so the Boss Man knows you were in the office.

Keep throwing stones, because you are the sad one. We are not on the Human board. You are on the Animal Health board. You might have a leg to stand on if it was the other case, but it isn't.

So you keep telling yourself whatever it is that helps you not pull the trigger at night.

I have earned my respect in this business... you are still worried about which recruiter to get your resume to.

I pitty you.
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Clincis...or clinics

head hung high ...or head held high?

resume to....is this an appropriate way to end a sentence..?

Pitty ....or pity?

Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones!
 












Anonymous said:
y'all motherfuckers need jesus!
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All you assholes need to make a buck somewhere else away from the corrupting pharma bitch ass supersize-me towers killing off humans by endorsing lies instead of leading future generations of healthy parents!
Sales work anywhere so find somewhere where you get to feel worthwhile at the end of the dayinstead of kissing dirt corrupt md's ass and begging like a dog. And you dickwad showing off pfizer - FUCK yourself hard and fuck Pfizer who now is into killing and corrupting vets for five years now just for the profit - without the balls to admit mistakes, recalls or even descency to print adverse reaction sheets on vaccines!
 






Anonymous said:
All you assholes need to make a buck somewhere else away from the corrupting pharma bitch ass supersize-me towers killing off humans by endorsing lies instead of leading future generations of healthy parents!
Sales work anywhere so find somewhere where you get to feel worthwhile at the end of the dayinstead of kissing dirt corrupt md's ass and begging like a dog. And you dickwad showing off pfizer - FUCK yourself hard and fuck Pfizer who now is into killing and corrupting vets for five years now just for the profit - without the balls to admit mistakes, recalls or even descency to print adverse reaction sheets on vaccines!
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Hahahahah. Word homeboy
 






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Anonymous said:
you don't "sell" - you had too much experience of not taking an order. you probably would come in with the work ethic of a human rep - 10 to 2 does not cut it in this business.

No, you are absolutely right on man. Those of us in oncology, helping people stay alive, or those of us selling TNF-a inhibitors to battle the debilitating effects of the spondylarthropaties need to be looking up to you all who are fighting every day to keep the fidos and fluffys of the world healthy! Lost work days from human illness costs our economy billions of dollars each year you self important pricks! Detailing HeartGuard and securing a purchase order doesn't make you an elite rep. Get over yourselves.
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Pfizer doesn't sell Heartgard.
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You should sell shit! Bundle shit in bags, plastic containers, glass bottles, shit balls, and sell shit. People will buy it for pranks, parties (stinky shit), movie theatres (stinky shit), Sporting Events (balls of shit for throwing at refs for bad calls ie: last weeks game) Golf Balls made of shit that will splatter when hit. etc..etc...etc..

Just think of all of the uses of shit! (and it's free) nothing but profit except for the container.

large amounts of shit could be dropped on Iraq and Afganistan, Pharma Headquarter Buildings, anywhere! Enough shit here.
 






Anonymous said:
you don't "sell" - you had too much experience of not taking an order. you probably would come in with the work ethic of a human rep - 10 to 2 does not cut it in this business.

I will beat you to it as well, I am at lunch on my laptop uploading orders that I "took" this morning. I did not have to deliver smaples or a lunch to do it either!
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You are crazy. 10-2 absolutely cuts it in this business. We all know that. In fact, 10-2, 3x per week cuts it. Great performers have time management skills....which is why I can check cafe pharma at 2:39pm on a Thursday afternoon.
 






Anonymous said:
You are crazy. 10-2 absolutely cuts it in this business. We all know that. In fact, 10-2, 3x per week cuts it. Great performers have time management skills....which is why I can check cafe pharma at 2:39pm on a Thursday afternoon.
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Ahh an old Roche Dx time table; the four T's; Ten - Two, Tues and Thursdays. Brilliant!
 






I was looking for a website with an answer to the original thread but it appears this site is not worth reading so far. Seems more like a bunch of trolls highjacked this thread. Thank you for the few people that gave helpful information.

Honestly has anyone worked in both areas and can they share their experiences both good and bad?
Closing percentages. Commission rates, residuals, what should someone expect in earnings their first year (ballpark), benefits of each, and overall experience in the field?
 






Anonymous said:
you don't "sell" - you had too much experience of not taking an order. you probably would come in with the work ethic of a human rep - 10 to 2 does not cut it in this business.

I will beat you to it as well, I am at lunch on my laptop uploading orders that I "took" this morning. I did not have to deliver smaples or a lunch to do it either!
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Animal Health rep's are too busy actually talking to doctors and selling or bundling products to respond. Cafe Pharma is not even on their radar as a bitchfest forum. Animal Health sales is what pharma was 15 years ago but with way more products in the bag. Very happy to have made the switch and do real sales.
 






anonymous said:
Animal Health rep's are too busy actually talking to doctors and selling or bundling products to respond. Cafe Pharma is not even on their radar as a bitchfest forum. Animal Health sales is what pharma was 15 years ago but with way more products in the bag. Very happy to have made the switch and do real sales.
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True - it’s too bad the pay is so inferior. Much more enjoyable seeing customers, but pay is “peanuts”
 






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