ALERT!- FACTIVE RASH REACHES ALL TIME HIGH -now on worstpills.org

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Is this true? Take a look on http://www.worstpills.org/results.cfm?druginduced_id=35

and Nadar's public citizen website
Words out on the street that a case of Stephens Johnsons developed after a Factive rash in SAN FRAN, CA recently and that . Can anyone validate? I know the rash in my district went sky high during respiratory but many of us wasn't reporting. I'm hearing this could put a black box on Factive in a matter of months. Anyone else hear anything on this
 












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Is this true? Take a look on http://www.worstpills.org/results.cfm?druginduced_id=35

and Nadar's public citizen website
Words out on the street that a case of Stephens Johnsons developed after a Factive rash in SAN FRAN, CA recently and that . Can anyone validate? I know the rash in my district went sky high during respiratory but many of us wasn't reporting. I'm hearing this could put a black box on Factive in a matter of months. Anyone else hear anything on this

[/ QUOTE ]Hey stupid, you could be implicated if a dr reports adverse event of ANY kind, and you do not follow up and report to the company. What kind of training do they give you?
 






The jack ass OP is just trying to get a rise out of us. Worst Pills lists just about every med under the sun, as well natural herbs, and some vitamins & minerals. Furthermore, there have been no cases of SJ Syndrome - I'll bet my awesome bonus on it!!
 






No SJ Syndrome you say - before you start offering your "awsome" bonus as a wager, you might want to check with a very busy family practice office in Richmond, VA that has a documented case of it. The patient ended up in the emergency room where the diagnosis, originally made by a nurse, was confirmed. I suppose you also believe everything your wonderful Factive marketing team tells you. And before you ask, no this wasn't a female patient under 40.
 






The unfortunate reality of this industry is that it is overwhelmed with inexperienced sales reps that are consumed with greed and stresses of making their goals. The people that lose out are the doctors and patients. They are often times fed inaccurate information or mislead by the mass hysteria, often initiated by a few idiots that have nothing better to do with their pathetic lives. And on a few occasions, actual lies that ultimately are revealed in the end.

One: If you click on the link,you'll notice that the search criteria is for QT prolongation, not rash. A quinolone such as Factive would definitely be on a worst pill list for a patient with history of QT prolongation. That also explains the other drugs on that list. DUH.

Two: If you learn of an adverse event in regards to any drug, you're supposed to report it.

Three: If you're pushing for Factive to be written for anyone and anything under the sun, then don't be shocked when the rash in your territory reaches an all time high. You have no one to blame but yourself because you didn't do your job in educating the Dr. about all the points regarding your drug so that they can make an informed decision on when best to use it and when not to. As far as the competitors go: There are other drugs in the class. There is no need to bash the other drugs because they too have a place and the Dr. has a right to chose theirs over yours. Get over it.

Fourth and finally: SJS is severe and potentially life threatning. 3-15% of people with severe SJS die from it. Interesting enough, the ratio of men to women is 2:1. If the supposed word has hit the street that Factive has caused such a situation, Factive Marketing would not be able to hide it. I haven't heard of anything in Cali or VA, but if it's true, it'll make the news for sure. Until then, if you want an unbiased opinion about Factive or any quinolone or drug for that matter, there's something called a PI. Each drug has one. It's sad how few reps really know their own drugs that they sell, let alone the competition in the class. There has never been a reported incident of toxicity with Factive: cardio, hepo, photo or otherwise.

Enough already...it's getting old. Quit giving the industry a bad name and do your job.

BTW, not defending the company. Morale is low and management is to blame for that. But that's a whole other post.
 






HEY DUMBASSES ARE YOU KIDDING US
LOOK AT THE FREAKING LINK IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS RASH RASH RASH RASH AND NOT JUST RASH... SEVEEEEEEEERE RASH

All of you company yes men and women defending FACTIVE is not on the worstpills list are ignorant take a look at this links what idiots you people are

http://www.worstpills.org/results.cfm?drug_id=1023

IN FACT HERE IT IS STRAIGHT OF THE SITE ITSELF
gemifloxacin (FACTIVE)
We list this drug as a Do Not Use drug because it causes severe RASHES and may cause irregular heartbeat and liver damage.
 












The very first link that was provided is different from the recent link provided. I was commenting on there never being an instance of SJS or any toxicity issues to date. That people confuse severe rash as a potential for SJS. Factive can be a worst pill for certain patient populations and one has only to read the PI to determine who those patient populations are. That goes for any drug.

Perhaps you should re-read my post.

Quinolones in general have a bad rap sheet. If people are trying to get Factive pulled, they're trying to get Avelox and Levaquin pulled too. Do the research on quinolones in general. Heard of Google? Use it. The drugs in this class are inappropriately overprescribed maybe because of lack of knowledge, maybe to appease the reps. Who knows. Many have been pulled for a variety of reasons. As far as being a yes man for the company...you obviously didn't read my last line.
 






The very first link that was provided is different from the recent link provided. I was commenting on the first link. I was also commenting on there never being an instance of SJS or any toxicity issues to date. That people confuse severe rash as a potential for SJS. Factive can be a worst pill for certain patient populations and one has only to read the PI to determine who those patient populations are. That goes for any drug.

Perhaps you should re-read my post.

Quinolones in general have a bad rap sheet. If people are trying to get Factive pulled, they're trying to get Avelox and Levaquin pulled too. Do the research on quinolones in general. Heard of Google? Use it. The drugs in this class are inappropriately overprescribed maybe because of lack of knowledge, maybe to appease the reps. Who knows. Many have been pulled for a variety of reasons. As far as being a yes man for the company...you obviously didn't read my last line.
 






I read your last line but I gotta tell you it is what it is and whether, good, bad, or indifferent FACTIVE rash is a serious issue that will maybe the kill-all of Oscient.
 






Nice try, When did you get fired from oscient? You people are pathetic. You know when you post lies about companies that are publicly traded, you could get into legal trouble Right, you know this RIGHT!!!!!

You either got fired from Oscient or you sell a competitor.....Right.....Come On!!!!!
 






From what I know about the incident in Richmond, it happened not too long after the launch. It was reported to the company but the doctor did not go through with the filing of the paperwork. I would tell you to ask the rep but I am sure there have been 3 or 4 reps in that territory since then. The sales force is constantly being turned over.
 






RASH is a serious issue. If you work for Oscient and say that it is not an issue- you are the liar! I am sick of working my ass off to get a doctor to write this crappy drug and then when he writes more than 3 scripts he experiences a rash. That dr is lost, next doctor! I have sold me too drugs in the past, I have been to presidents club. I have sold 14 drugs in my career, good and not so good, but nothing like this drug. THere is no need for it unless you want to cause your patients harm by giving them a head to toe severe rash. I feel unethical endorsing Factive. Anyone who can selll this drug with a straight face and a clear conscience, I hope you can sleep at night.
 












Obviously a disgruntled ex-employee or a competitor.

I've sold Factive from the beginning. It has been in other foriegn markets for YEARS. Hasn't been pulled due to rash to the best of my knowledge. Was upfront with my doctors about everything, good, bad, indifferent. Rash can be a serious issue and certain patients are more susceptible to developing it than others. They use it in the appropriate population, as indicated. A few of their patients have experienced side affects, similar to the profile associated with this drug. The results are as expected and they still use it to this day. Have not lost one doctor due to rash. In fact I've had the pleasure of hearing great success stories from my physicians about how well their patients are doing. They see less CNS effects and less GI upset, typically associated with quinolone use. They like the fact that they don't have to worry about p450 drug-drug interactions and are comforted in knowing it's safe for their diabetic population. The most common gripe I get is mc coverage, but with coupons to offset the differential, it's not that big a deal. If you're with the company and not comfortable selling the drug...here's an idea...LEAVE!!! If your a competitor, get used to there being another player in the market. Me too? Hardly. One of the few drugs on the market with clinical proof of better long term efficacy. Oh and btw...I sleep just fine.

However: To the people interested in working for the company: Don't. Although I defend the drug, I don't defend the company. There is a serious problem with company culture and management truly doesn't get it. I'm looking to leave myself, but not because of the drug I promote. Morale is at an all time low, there is no job security and the company doesn't treat their reps well. Very shady. They set the goals too high, expecting miracles. Factive has it's limitations and there's only so many scripts you can get with the indications it has and with the population it targets. If the company falls short of a goal, like getting the indication or winning a MC battle, it's ok, but if the sales force doesnt deliver, they go around firing people and replacing them with rent a reps. Do as I say, not as I do, indeed.

Stop harping on the rash. If you honestly think it is the ONLY issue, then you're either a really bad rep, trying to mask the real problems facing our company right now, or a competitor with nothing better to do. In any event, I'm done with this thread.
 






LIARRRRR! What foreign markets has FACTIVE been sold in. How so for years? I don't believe some of these post I am reading. Okay fine defend it to the last but bring some relevance not this BS. so I guess the Rash I got on Factive was insignificant are ou kidding me. I was detailing the doctor and scratching my ass off at the same time! It became a conscience issue and I finally stopped telling drs it was maculopapular and benign when every account I ran into pissed the dr off! Are you kidding. I started telling them that the rash doesn't happen but when it does it can be severe. Its the truth and its the right humane thing to do. If marketing is telling you different just ask G. Tillotson about the rash. It can be quite severe and the folks who say it aint so are more concerned about profits than patients. Very sad. Let's hear your rebutt to that! I thought so.
 






You are right it has not been sold in foreign markets, that person has the wrong info. But thanks to good citizens like you the truth can be heard.........Now please listen carefully, at this point everyone knows that ANYBODY WHO SAYS SO MANY NEGATIVE THINGS ABOUT FACTIVE/OSCIENT has either been fired or doesn't have good numbers. So here's my advice ........LEAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please don't reply that you have good numbers or won presidents club, nobody believes you.

And also GT will sell and believe in ANY company that PAYS HIM..............GET A CLUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 






It is amazing that so many of you find the RASH an excuse as to why FACTIVE is not succeeding in your territory. I launched this drug from day 1. Yes, there is a rash and you need to be very up front with your doctors as to how to dose and who should not get it, this way you can question the doctor should there be a rash. Will doctors see rash...absolutely. Is it benign...no, it is ugly. However, the rash is not the big deal you make it out to be and if it is, then you should re-evaluate your details.
 






I already left but too bad the factive rash hasn't I've been itching for 6 months now I guess its only fair since I sold this 3 legged dog to others maybe this post will set things right, you dumb fucks
 






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