Abbvie Teaching Critical Race Theory and Its Mandatory

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anonymous said:
All white Male hiring panels hire which race and demographic? Based on that answer, let’s take action from there on how to proceed.[/QUOTE

Dear designated race bating baby, there is an overwhelming tendency to hire the best candidate. Do outliers exist? Yes. How ironic that in order to achieve your desired outcome, it requires deploying the very same racist behavior you claim to detest. You’re either not that smart, or purposely trying to be provocative. What the dummies at the top can’t comprehend, while shoving mandatory training down our throats is, you can’t have it both ways. You’ve alienated, by far, the vast majority of your employees across all races by talking down to them, scheduling mandatory training under the guise that we are all racist and somehow should apologize for our privilege. What a giant crock of shit
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Why don’t you do yourself a favor and head to the woods now. You should be glad to work for a company that is actually doing something instead of putting a BLM banner on their website with no action plan.
A lot of you already have your job and position. Have you ever been in the position interviewing for job where the opposite race is the panel? I bet that answer is NO. As that person do you say to yourself...I got this.
 







If discrimination and hiring was done by race, there’s only 1 way to “repair” it. Let’s see how you fare when 3 POC are making decisions at the hiring table and Little Johnny is on the hot seat. I can’t wait.
 






anonymous said:
If discrimination and hiring was done by race, there’s only 1 way to “repair” it. Let’s see how you fare when 3 POC are making decisions at the hiring table and Little Johnny is on the hot seat. I can’t wait.
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You present a weak argument for very simple reasons. First, your hiring scenario is based on conjecture and no concrete discriminatory hiring practices. Good luck proving that in a court of law. Maybe a minority candidate didn’t like the outcome and wasn’t the best candidate? Should the hiring manager(s) have based their decision on race, or merit? If there was a clear discrepancy between the minority and non minority candidate, and the superior (in this case white) candidate was slighted because he/she wasn’t a minority isn’t that racist? Because “you” cry racism doesn’t make it so. Because a hiring panel consists of white people doesn’t automatically confer racist practices. Well, according to you, it does. The next question is, what can’t you wait for?? Who is “Little Johnny” and what does that mean? You’re all over the place and present ZERO credibility nor possess a modicum of common sense. At the end, your “pay back is a bitch” mentality is what is wrong with this society, and you’re one of the people leading the racist charge. What’s pretty cool is that we have a more diverse workplace than ever before, and are surrounded by fantastic leaders of all different races, gender, sexual orientation, etc. Progress is being made, but unfortunately, according to you and others, it has to come at the expense of another.
 






anonymous said:
You present a weak argument for very simple reasons. First, your hiring scenario is based on conjecture and no concrete discriminatory hiring practices. Good luck proving that in a court of law. Maybe a minority candidate didn’t like the outcome and wasn’t the best candidate? Should the hiring manager(s) have based their decision on race, or merit? If there was a clear discrepancy between the minority and non minority candidate, and the superior (in this case white) candidate was slighted because he/she wasn’t a minority isn’t that racist? Because “you” cry racism doesn’t make it so. Because a hiring panel consists of white people doesn’t automatically confer racist practices. Well, according to you, it does. The next question is, what can’t you wait for?? Who is “Little Johnny” and what does that mean? You’re all over the place and present ZERO credibility nor possess a modicum of common sense. At the end, your “pay back is a bitch” mentality is what is wrong with this society, and you’re one of the people leading the racist charge. What’s pretty cool is that we have a more diverse workplace than ever before, and are surrounded by fantastic leaders of all different races, gender, sexual orientation, etc. Progress is being made, but unfortunately, according to you and others, it has to come at the expense of another.
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If you aren’t at the table, you’re on the menu. True Diversity Integration is the sharing of Power, Resources, and Responsibilities. A rep in the field has No power to create change. What POC are demanding is Actionable Change. Mexicans, Asians, Blacks, Chinese, and Natives stand overwhelmingly United. And Corporate America is responding with Money and a commitment to Action. Millennials aren’t about just rhetoric and talk and know BS when they see. All White Male Hiring Panels should have ended Decades ago and deemed illegal. But, Follow the money. I’m excited for the future Browning of America.
 






anonymous said:
Why don’t you do yourself a favor and head to the woods now. You should be glad to work for a company that is actually doing something instead of putting a BLM banner on their website with no action plan.
A lot of you already have your job and position. Have you ever been in the position interviewing for job where the opposite race is the panel? I bet that answer is NO. As that person do you say to yourself...I got this.
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I would if I could. Just need a few more years. In the meantime, GFY.
 






You’ve had such a great head start, you should have no problem heading off to the woods. What your intentions are...speaks volumes but its just something else you don’t see. Everyone else is to blame and is crazy but yet its you that wants to head to the woods by yourself.
Another point that keeps being brought up is, “what if the white male was just more qualified than the other candidates? I’m sure there are instances when that is the case but I am sure that there are also times when they are pretty equal and some when the other candidate is a better choice. In 95 % of all instances the white male/female will get the job offer. So run don’t walk to the woods and GFY.
 






who fucking cares.

work on you and partner with others. for every hire ask the question - did we source every diverse person possible for this role. if so, how. do this regardless of role.

maybe hr can be different as well. blinded hiring panels. mixed business hiring panels. skip level hiring panels with overweight advantage. A comment period for all hiring. post all diversity goals by the business. no more hiring, just placement of candidates for entry level positions. ( that's my favorite ). At every business level, add a DI grade 21 person to keep watch and add value.

CRT is about knowledge, but its application is education.

Franky, i am not worried about those leaving, I worry about those who stay.
 






anonymous said:
who fucking cares.

work on you and partner with others. for every hire ask the question - did we source every diverse person possible for this role. if so, how. do this regardless of role.

maybe hr can be different as well. blinded hiring panels. mixed business hiring panels. skip level hiring panels with overweight advantage. A comment period for all hiring. post all diversity goals by the business. no more hiring, just placement of candidates for entry level positions. ( that's my favorite ). At every business level, add a DI grade 21 person to keep watch and add value.

CRT is about knowledge, but its application is education.

Franky, i am not worried about those leaving, I worry about those who stay.
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I like things the way it is. No need to source.
 






First off CRT is bunk and racist on its face. I would expect better from a leader like Abbvie. Numerous studies show that the differences in wages between blacks and whites are minimal (e.g. 1-2%) when controlling for education and job type. The fact that this theory is being promulgated in the main stream indicates the country is on the road to the 3rd world.

As for hiring practices, as a manager I've asked HR about this. They are looking at more diverse hiring. Their feedback was "when you narrow down by experience and education the hiring pool gets VERY small."
 






anonymous said:
If you aren’t at the table, you’re on the menu. True Diversity Integration is the sharing of Power, Resources, and Responsibilities. A rep in the field has No power to create change. What POC are demanding is Actionable Change. Mexicans, Asians, Blacks, Chinese, and Natives stand overwhelmingly United. And Corporate America is responding with Money and a commitment to Action. Millennials aren’t about just rhetoric and talk and know BS when they see. All White Male Hiring Panels should have ended Decades ago and deemed illegal. But, Follow the money. I’m excited for the future Browning of America.
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What the h@ll does this this even say? What is the point. This is the problem with movements like BLM and CRT. Lots of words with no logical meaning....
 






anonymous said:
First off CRT is bunk and racist on its face. I would expect better from a leader like Abbvie. Numerous studies show that the differences in wages between blacks and whites are minimal (e.g. 1-2%) when controlling for education and job type. The fact that this theory is being promulgated in the main stream indicates the country is on the road to the 3rd world.

As for hiring practices, as a manager I've asked HR about this. They are looking at more diverse hiring. Their feedback was "when you narrow down by experience and education the hiring pool gets VERY small."
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Small? Horseshit. That is another fucking excuse. There is a lot of talent out there - raw talent. Managers continue to hire Sally Pinkpanties with 7 years of experience in Farktard. Sally is easy to hire, easy to train and picks up the role quickly. Easy Sally is not what we need.

How did they find Sally? Probably the same comfortable process they know. And that is the problem. You have to be different to hire differently.

Its a cycle that has to be unmade.
 






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