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I have no problem believing her accusations are 100% true. I see things like this happen on a smaller scale several times a year:

1. Employee raises legitimate concerns to management.
2. Management sweeps said concern under the rug and does nothing
3. Employee re-raises issue to management
4. Management downsizes employee


The big question to me is when the next shoe(s) will fall. I have no doubt Cidra wasn't an isolated incident and was only unusual in that it was exposed by a whistleblower. It will be interesting to see where and when the next big embarrassing blunder for GSK is exposed.
 






I've spent alot of time defending the pharmaceutical industry. This one is just plain indefensible. Notice that GSK pled guilty. Didn't even put up a fight.....with good reason. It is a shame that the red flags raised went unaddressed and I'd have to say we got what we deserved. Hopefully nothing like this happens again.
 






In reality who really cares? In a few weeks it'll be forgot about! Gas prices will be conversations around the country! If you're so embarassed give your paycheck to the victims. You should leave the company and work for yourself!
 






Fining the company does NOTHING to change the behavior of the people who are responsible for this criminal action. Those people still get the same paychecks, bonuses and benefits. They are not in pain. They will just try to keep quiet so they don't get fired.

When will the FDA put all of the company managers, directors, VPs and other execs behind bars for a LONG TIME? That is the only way to truly change this criminal behavior which is pervasive throughout the medical industry.

It is very sad that we fail patients by a lack of accountability. It is a crime as well.
 






The sad fact is that not only did GSK compromise the lives of patients- they overtly tried to hide it. They lied and misled anyone they thought that they could deceive.

Think about that while all of this BS was going on- they had us out there looking like a bunch of assholes in front of our customers. Passing down the information/lies that we were handed. This is a company with no morals. They consistently use phrases like "transparancey" and "honesty". What that translates to us in the field- "we are telling you the absolute minimum that the attorneys have told us we have to tell you." All the while- they are using us to spread the lies. WE ARE BEING USED. If you raise issues- you are fired/laid off.

This was going on in 2002.... It came to light to the public in the last year. Imagine what else is going on right now? What is going to come to light in the next few years?

Bottom line- back up every email you have on an external hard drive. Eventually, the FDA is going to come after us and what we say to physicians. You better have proof that the information we share is what we are told as "truth".
 






GSK will only act ethically when they are forced to by the FDA or other gov't agencies. Only after they have tried to lawyer and delay away as many problems as possible. Ethical people will make ethical choices even when no one is watching.... That attitude would get you fired/laid-off in about 10 seconds around here.

Keep pushing the lies onto the docs... or its your ass!
 






Anonymous said:
I just viewed the 60 Minutes segment on GSK. I have been with this company for over 30 years and I am deeply ashamed. I will be hanging my head tomorrow in sorrow because our former leadership was inept and dishonest.
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"former leadership" ???

Huh?

Most of the key players responsible for Cidra mess are still at GSK.

Hundreds of folks from GSK have visited the Cidra plant over the years and it was widely known that it was a sh*t hole. The place was run like a banana-republic-family-owned mafia-business.

The worst hasn't even been widely reported yet. The leadership scum at Cidra were selling rejected project out that back door to the highest bidder. Forget about what we were distributing through official channels, the real garbage was sold by Cidra mgt on the black market.
 












Anonymous said:
Depressing to watch. I remember being told how it was "just a few broken Paxil CR pills." Whether it was Garnier or Witty or whoever no one should be trusted.
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That is exactly what I said after watching it!! My cell phone and house phone were ringing off the hook with family and friends saying how lucky I was to be out of GSK.
 






Anonymous said:
I have no problem believing her accusations are 100% true. I see things like this happen on a smaller scale several times a year:

1. Employee raises legitimate concerns to management.
2. Management sweeps said concern under the rug and does nothing
3. Employee re-raises issue to management
4. Management downsizes employee


The big question to me is when the next shoe(s) will fall. I have no doubt Cidra wasn't an isolated incident and was only unusual in that it was exposed by a whistleblower. It will be interesting to see where and when the next big embarrassing blunder for GSK is exposed.
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Well Said! The next one will be in Consumer Healthcare, Smithkline Beecham legacy. That is why AW is selling CH products daily.
 












Everyone who worked at gsk at the time knew something bad was happening down there - obvioulsy not to what extent. I was with the vaccine division and would hear from my counterparts how the plant in PR was a mess and couldn't produce Avandia and Paxil so there were several periods of backorders. The plant was shut down a couple of times and reopened. The FDA was down there all the time as well.
 






This industry is probably not much different from other industries. Profit is the bottom line. It comes before anything else. To think that somehow this industry is concerned with safety and quality assurance first and foremost is naive. They will try to get away with shortcuts wherever possible. If they can keep the FDA at bay, and support politicians that rail about regulations of businesses in this country, they consider themselves successful. Until the day that our government puts the American people first, and does its job regulating unscrupulous business practices this will continue to happen.
 






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