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Are these positions to sell caplyta?
do they have PODS or is it 1 rep per territory?
do they have PODS or is it 1 rep per territory?
It’s becoming a pod situation. This expansion is nuts. Way too many reps for one psych drug.
And those Vraylar reps are miserable. I didn’t come here to be in a pod. Most of us left that kind of structure to run our own territory. We don’t need more people, we need better leadership.Vraylar has 3 to 4 reps in one damn city. How the hell is it way to many reps ? CAPLYTA is actually under on reps, especially if they want to grow marketshare
And those Vraylar reps are miserable. I didn’t come here to be in a pod. Most of us left that kind of structure to run our own territory. We don’t need more people, we need better leadership.
In what sunshine fantasy do you believe any reps actually sell any drugs today?When you look at the big picture there’s no way 1 damn person can benefit a drug and gain share. You hire one person per territory and that’s a disaster long term for a drug. Are you sure you people have a college degree ? If you want to truly run your own business go do that but there’s no way 1 person will win long term vs 3 to 4 reps. To me 2 is a perfect number in a territory to effectively sell and grow a drug.
Seriously. RXs go up because of market access (contracting and paying $) and/or clinical value prop & education, not sales rep email blasts and lunches. This isn't 2004.In what sunshine fantasy do you believe any reps actually sell any drugs today?
The specialty positions offered are salary between 100k-150k. Going to need to be higher than that to poach experienced psych reps. Especially with J&J coming in with so many reps already. It’s a risky move.Are these positions to sell caplyta?
do they have PODS or is it 1 rep per territory?
My last job before ITCI, I sold a rare disease drug that was nearly $2BB a year. One rep per territory. We were successful and owned the market and share. You don’t need multiple reps in a territory. That approach worked in the early 2000s. With the influence of managed care and hospital systems, more reps doesn’t equal more prescriptions.When you look at the big picture there’s no way 1 damn person can benefit a drug and gain share. You hire one person per territory and that’s a disaster long term for a drug. Are you sure you people have a college degree ? If you want to truly run your own business go do that but there’s no way 1 person will win long term vs 3 to 4 reps. To me 2 is a perfect number in a territory to effectively sell and grow a drug.
Truth.JnJ isn't keeping 90% of the reps..... we don't need 50 reps per territory. We already have two (Schiz/Mood). If anything they'll use an internal med sales force for those accounts. Other than that no over lays.
Help me understand why JnJ would have us continue with the expansion efforts then? The cost to hire, train, etc then to only offer these reps severance seems idiotic.JnJ isn't keeping 90% of the reps..... we don't need 50 reps per territory. We already have two (Schiz/Mood). If anything they'll use an internal med sales force for those accounts. Other than that no over lays.
They will keep much of the PCP team and probably release most of the NSS because they already have two psych reps per territory. Plus, companies do this all the time right up until the date the deal closes. Continue with business as usual. The deal could fall through last minute so we need to press on as if there is no deal. If JnJ were to back out, they have to pay out a “poison pill” penalty likely worth more than $100,000,000. Business as usual to keep the plebes working as though our jobs depend on it.Help me understand why JnJ would have us continue with the expansion efforts then? The cost to hire, train, etc then to only offer these reps severance seems idiotic.
They invested billions in an attempt to make CAP successful. Why waste more money by hiring then displacing people.
They will keep much of the PCP team and probably release most of the NSS because they already have two psych reps per territory. Plus, companies do this all the time right up until the date the deal closes. Continue with business as usual. The deal could fall through last minute so we need to press on as if there is no deal. If JnJ were to back out, they have to pay out a “poison pill” penalty likely worth more than $100,000,000. Business as usual to keep the plebes working as though our jobs depend on it.
Bookmark it, screenshot it, put it on your refrigerator.
No ITCI reps(NSS or NSR) will be laid off in a mass layoff event this year or next. Anyone saying otherwise is just plain dumb.
Bookmark it, screenshot it, put it on your refrigerator.
No ITCI reps(NSS or NSR) will be laid off in a mass layoff event this year or next. Anyone saying otherwise is just plain dumb.
Stupid middle manager doing the company’s bidding. Keep em grinding big shot. Make that extra call every day. Use the challenger model to close for that next patient. Find that “one thing” that makes you so special and use it to your advantage. There is no way JnJ would cull such a uniquely talented specialty sales force. Except we aren’t unique and they have their own psych team carrying a drug that’s going generic. Do the math. Or don’t and just wait for the axe to fall. I can’t wait for all the “leaders” here to be out on their ass. A lot more jobs for us reps than there are for you bloated, useless managers. Counting the days until I get my payout.Bookmark it, screenshot it, put it on your refrigerator.
No ITCI reps(NSS or NSR) will be laid off in a mass layoff event this year or next. Anyone saying otherwise is just plain dumb.
Stupid middle manager doing the company’s bidding. Keep em grinding big shot. Make that extra call every day. Use the challenger model to close for that next patient. Find that “one thing” that makes you so special and use it to your advantage. There is no way JnJ would cull such a uniquely talented specialty sales force. Except we aren’t unique and they have their own psych team carrying a drug that’s going generic. Do the math. Or don’t and just wait for the axe to fall. I can’t wait for all the “leaders” here to be out on their ass. A lot more jobs for us reps than there are for you bloated, useless managers. Counting the days until I get my payout.