Wow, women don't have equal protection, Scalia



















I consider myself a feminist. Not the radical, bra burning, man hating variety, but have lived with gender discrimination in the 70s and 80s and know how far we have progressed. I live a fairly traditional life except my career choice has been decidely in an area with more men then women but it has changed over time. As a result, I have been subjected to sexual discrimination; I never filed any claims because it was just accepted that this was the way things were. I, by choice, bear the brunt of child rearing and home responsibilities but it is one of my choices, not the only one. My point is, I get the importance of equal protection under the law, probably more than many of the younger women posters here.

Still, Scalia is right. There is nothing in the 14th amendment that protects against sexual discrimination. Can you imagine the nation's founders, in the time of the nation's founding, even thinking about many of the workplace issues we face today and women's rights? BTW, those who tried for decades to pass the ERA also agree with Scalia but others felt that protection already existed so the ERA wasn't needed.

There are enough other laws against discrimination on the books and we can't turn back time so I don't think this is cause for alarm!
 
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I consider myself a feminist. Not the radical, bra burning, man hating variety, but have lived with gender discrimination in the 70s and 80s and know how far we have progressed. I live a fairly traditional life except my career choice has been decidely in an area with more men then women but it has changed over time. As a result, I have been subjected to sexual discrimination; I never filed any claims because it was just accepted that this was the way things were. I, by choice, bear the brunt of child rearing and home responsibilities but it is one of my choices, not the only one. My point is, I get the importance of equal protection under the law, probably more than many of the younger women posters here.

Still, Scalia is right. There is nothing in the 14th amendment that protects against sexual discrimination. Can you imagine the nation's founders, in the time of the nation's founding, even thinking about many of the workplace issues we face today and women's rights? BTW, those who tried for decades to pass the ERA also agree with Scalia but others felt that protection already existed so the ERA wasn't needed.

There are enough other laws against discrimination on the books and we can't turn back time so I don't think this is cause for alarm!

So this just proves that Scalia interprets the constitution to support his narrow, sexist view.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment14/
 






I consider myself a feminist. Not the radical, bra burning, man hating variety, but have lived with gender discrimination in the 70s and 80s and know how far we have progressed. I live a fairly traditional life except my career choice has been decidely in an area with more men then women but it has changed over time. As a result, I have been subjected to sexual discrimination; I never filed any claims because it was just accepted that this was the way things were. I, by choice, bear the brunt of child rearing and home responsibilities but it is one of my choices, not the only one. My point is, I get the importance of equal protection under the law, probably more than many of the younger women posters here.

Still, Scalia is right. There is nothing in the 14th amendment that protects against sexual discrimination. Can you imagine the nation's founders, in the time of the nation's founding, even thinking about many of the workplace issues we face today and women's rights? BTW, those who tried for decades to pass the ERA also agree with Scalia but others felt that protection already existed so the ERA wasn't needed.

There are enough other laws against discrimination on the books and we can't turn back time so I don't think this is cause for alarm!

but if those laws r based on the 14th and then the sc determines it doesnt actually apply then all those laws will be overturned

then u and all ur gender can b fired simply 4 having tata's.
 


















So this just proves that Scalia interprets the constitution to support his narrow, sexist view.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment14/

Not really, but knows what it says and what it doesn't say. I no time does he support repealing anti-discrimination laws, simply states it is not directly addressed in the 14th amendment.

well the word i really wanted 2 use i didnt want 2 because spn is an elderly lady probably older than my mom and i cant see talking 2 her that way

I'm in my 50s but started work in the late 70s in an all male plant, and until I met people, the assumption was I was a lesbian; why else would I be working in that field? . I had several brothers and I've raised a slew of kids, mostly boys. When I returned to school the first time, the degree was in a predominately male field. I appreciate the consideration and feel that people have forgotten how to be polite but I don't get ruffled too easily. I wouldn't have survived if I did. While people today don't know basic manners, they also scream discrimination all too soon!
 
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but if those laws r based on the 14th and then the sc determines it doesnt actually apply then all those laws will be overturned

then u and all ur gender can b fired simply 4 having tata's.

I suppose odder things have happened but I don't see more than 50% of the population rolling over and accepting that. There will always be risks, as those who have fallen to taliban rule can attest, but I hope the US remains stronger. The Supreme Court, although it tilts right or left, has been fairly balanced as it was designed to be. For every Sotomeyer, you need a Scalia. Why do you think Stevens is retiring under an extreme lib president?

And Libs, you should care about women's rights. Having your wife have the ability to work in a field that pays more than teacher or secretary has given you additional freedoms.
 
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Clarification: Burning (not wearing) a bra has nothing to do with man hating, we think it's one of the kinder things a woman can do for us plus it's liberating for the gender - just sayin'.........

Personally, I just love to see women not wearing bras. Who cares about being "liberated for the gender". Its liberating for the tits! I just love it that they're liberated for me to watch.

Some statement: Women wearing deliberately provocative clothes so that men won't view them as sex objects.
 






Personally, I just love to see women not wearing bras. Who cares about being "liberated for the gender". Its liberating for the tits! I just love it that they're liberated for me to watch.

Some statement: Women wearing deliberately provocative clothes so that men won't view them as sex objects.

The only time you ever see a woman not wearing a bra, you have to pay for it, Pepito.