Why is Novartis looking outside company to hire their new Hospital CV sales force?

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Pretty sure their are many of us with CV experience, including heart failure, right? Hmm, what drugs did Diovan compete with? Other ARBs, other ACE's, etc. Can't anyone that puts in the effort learn the heart failure market? Are the skills sets necessary for a hospital rep/account manager so difficult to master? I don't get it.

Also, side note, I thought a pharma company needed TWO double blind, randomized, bla, bla bla to get approval for a medication. LCZ has on study in heart failure in patients with ejection fraction of <35%. Yes, yes, good and meaningful results. But really are guidelines going to change with only 1 study that has not been. I understand a 2nd study is underway in patients with heart failure (EF of > 35%), so at least we should have two studies (albeit different patient populations). However, the 2nd study will not be completed, analyzed and published at the earliest end of 2017. Is this even a hospital drug???? Let the comment come flying. Go.
 




Re: Why is Novartis looking outside company to hire their new Hospital CV sales force

because you sample dropping, speaker paying diovan 1/2 wits have no clue how useless you really are
 




Re: Why is Novartis looking outside company to hire their new Hospital CV sales force

Yes and you lying saying anything to get the job know everything. Oh please take your over inflated egos and your bs shove it up the md and vps ass that bought it and hired you. Get over yourselves. I see our speaker programs and process are so different than other companies. Get over it will you
 




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Novartis doesn't care about internal talent- They do not care!!! look at the leaders, they are come from somewhere else, so why do you novartis people think they care about career opportunities??

When was the last time a rep was promoted to ABL? Have you ever seen an ABL promoted to RD? How about an RD to VP????? leave this shithole company when you can and stop thinking it will ever get better.
 








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Anonymous said:
Yes and you lying saying anything to get the job know everything. Oh please take your over inflated egos and your bs shove it up the md and vps ass that bought it and hired you. Get over yourselves. I see our speaker programs and process are so different than other companies. Get over it will you
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You asked the question, the answer is simple.
People much smarter than you made the decision.
You are an unqualified idiot.
That's why you are still a bag toting, donut dropping,
sample signature gathering, lunch catering stooge.
See how easy that was? Next!
 




Re: Why is Novartis looking outside company to hire their new Hospital CV sales force

Is this a good gig? Recruiter called, but not sure I want to pursue big pharma.
 












Re: Why is Novartis looking outside company to hire their new Hospital CV sales force

Look, I am a Senior KAM that can easily do the Hospital
Specialist Job. I was told "no thank you". 14 years, multiple responsibilities.
I have a new job, starting 2/9. My only commentary is that, after 14 years,
all the wins and losses, I don't give a shit about Novartis. I do think
they truly suck.
 




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They really do suck the worst disjointed, dysfunctional and chaotic everyone from managing directors upward just scrambling around trying to figure out what the hell to do some took two steps back and their friends made room for them instead of going to another organization It's laughable to watch play out
 




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Look, I am a Senior KAM that can easily do the Hospital
Specialist Job. I was told "no thank you". 14 years, multiple responsibilities.
I have a new job, starting 2/9. My only commentary is that, after 14 years,
all the wins and losses, I don't give a shit about Novartis. I do think
they truly suck.
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Did they give you a reason or tell you anything? There is ZERO loyalty or accountability from leaderships side. It's to the point it's funny and laughable. Everyone is always expecting the worst because that's what we've seen over and over. Everyone would be in shock and speechless if they actually made a move that made sense. It's become such a sad thing to watch.
 




Re: Why is Novartis looking outside company to hire their new Hospital CV sales force

Anonymous said:
Look, I am a Senior KAM that can easily do the Hospital
Specialist Job. I was told "no thank you". 14 years, multiple responsibilities.
I have a new job, starting 2/9. My only commentary is that, after 14 years,
all the wins and losses, I don't give a shit about Novartis. I do think
they truly suck.
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I also am a senior KAM and chose not to interview. The way they treated the reps, neuro(merry christmas) made us all interview for the ABL jobs was sad. The hospital rep job was beneath me and all of the abls and KAMS, these positions should have went to the reps. They do not value internal talent and have a 10x worse case of the grass is always greener syndrome with new people. They will take other company's cast offs instead of their proven talent. It is why they will fail not because of product but because people hate working there. They will lose all their good people once opportunities come along. I also have a job and started a week ago, it is at my level and I am happy so thanks Novartis for the push out the door and I am glad it hit me on the a$@ on the way out.
 




Re: Why is Novartis looking outside company to hire their new Hospital CV sales force

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I also am a senior KAM and chose not to interview. The way they treated the reps, neuro(merry christmas) made us all interview for the ABL jobs was sad. The hospital rep job was beneath me and all of the abls and KAMS, these positions should have went to the reps. They do not value internal talent and have a 10x worse case of the grass is always greener syndrome with new people. They will take other company's cast offs instead of their proven talent. It is why they will fail not because of product but because people hate working there. They will lose all their good people once opportunities come along. I also have a job and started a week ago, it is at my level and I am happy so thanks Novartis for the push out the door and I am glad it hit me on the a$@ on the way out.
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To tag on to your point. Based on the hiring criteria you may have only qualified as a "hospital account manager 1". It was made very clear to everyone that your previous credentials/ performance was immaterial. If the criteria for a HAM-2 was CV experience in 3 of the last 5 years then you could have been #1 in the nation with Diovan for 3 straight years and still ended up being slotted as an entry level hospital account manager.
 




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HF is $8 per day against a $4 per month other drug option and no blacks in study and only a few extra weeks survival data? No thank you with loading hire and layoffs after launch.
 












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