What was so great about Celgene

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There were a lot of things that were very good! To name a few, up to 2015 the culture was the attraction. Everyone one was treated very well and all ideas were appreciated and explored! You felt that what you did was valued. They gave large amounts of stock as well as significant amounts of perk points. It allowed leaders to recognize there teams with something of value. After 2015 the place turned into big pharma and that change was ushered in by your lord and savior Nadim A! Enough said!
 




anonymous said:
There were a lot of things that were very good! To name a few, up to 2015 the culture was the attraction. Everyone one was treated very well and all ideas were appreciated and explored! You felt that what you did was valued. They gave large amounts of stock as well as significant amounts of perk points. It allowed leaders to recognize there teams with something of value. After 2015 the place turned into big pharma and that change was ushered in by your lord and savior Nadim A! Enough said!
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You must’ve come to Celgene rather late in the game if declaring 2015 as the start of the spiral downward. It began way before that. Having been hired in 2003 opinion is more around 2010. Agree it was a fabulous company and comments on NA.
 




Imagine a small college, or community where you live...you start to know people, learn about them and understand the way they think. It's new and fresh and sometimes cliquey, but always exciting and thriving. At BMS I spend more time thinking of who I need to CC on an email than I do writing it. That's the difference. It's too big, too old, run by people who are intimidated by young, fresh talent instead of embracing new ideas and fresh sets of eyes. At Celgene we felt that, for better or worse, each other's success was our own success. At BMS it feels like my boss's success is his alone. I'm willing to try to be part of the change rather than jump ship. Just need to decide if it's worth it.
 




anonymous said:
Imagine a small college, or community where you live...you start to know people, learn about them and understand the way they think. It's new and fresh and sometimes cliquey, but always exciting and thriving. At BMS I spend more time thinking of who I need to CC on an email than I do writing it. That's the difference. It's too big, too old, run by people who are intimidated by young, fresh talent instead of embracing new ideas and fresh sets of eyes. At Celgene we felt that, for better or worse, each other's success was our own success. At BMS it feels like my boss's success is his alone. I'm willing to try to be part of the change rather than jump ship. Just need to decide if it's worth it.
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Equity, Money, no partners, imid data was impeccable, small company feel, exploding multi billion drug for 100 reps gave a sense of security, and the babes, beautiful smart women everywhere.
 




anonymous said:
You must’ve come to Celgene rather late in the game if declaring 2015 as the start of the spiral downward. It began way before that. Having been hired in 2003 opinion is more around 2010. Agree it was a fabulous company and comments on NA.
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I did start after 2003. Things for me did a 180 around 2014-2015! NA started to put multiple layers of leadership in place and that’s when things never got done on the commercial side! We were accustomed to quick decisions. Then suddenly it took months, if ever!
 




I can only speak from a rep perspective, but I never felt like I was going to work. I loved what I did. There was more than enough to do and I was trusted to do the right thing. I had no "partners" in my territory. I performed and was paid very well. I got equity every 90 days that grew steadily. There wasn't a single ounce of activity for activity's sake. The bottom line is that I was treated like an adult instead of a untrustworthy child that has to be managed.
 












anonymous said:
We were asked to perform. We were paid if we did. We did not do activity and measure it purely as an activity like we have to here.
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Ohh yes we did! We checked boxes constantly. People posting these fantasies are not being factual. Worked there for 15 years and by 2012 Big Pharma culture was creeping in.
 




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They didn't cram their political ideology down your throat.

They focused on experience rather than academia merits.

They gave huge equity grants along with bonuses even to entry level people.

They were way more patient centric.

They strive for excellence. Since BMS took over I've witnessed my coworkers become lost. Like they're stuck in a job they hate but can't leave. I'm in Arizona so there isn't very many options here.
 




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