What other jobs to look into if laid off?

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Let's be honest, pharma companies are cutting back, sales jobs in pharma are getting fewer and fewer, all of the laid off reps are competing for the same jobs, not enough jobs to go around... Some of the laid off reps will NOT be able to get back in pharma! Some of the laid off reps will not want to stay in pharma. What other industries and jobs interest you? What can we move into that is as good or better than what we have now?
 






Anonymous said:
Let's be honest, pharma companies are cutting back, sales jobs in pharma are getting fewer and fewer, all of the laid off reps are competing for the same jobs, not enough jobs to go around... Some of the laid off reps will NOT be able to get back in pharma! Some of the laid off reps will not want to stay in pharma. What other industries and jobs interest you? What can we move into that is as good or better than what we have now?
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I'm thinking UPS or catering.
 












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I'm thinking UPS or catering.
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Dumb joke.

To answer the question (and be a little help to the Ceph folks), here is what I will am doing: I am looking for pharma rep jobs right now like mad!!! I have been looking ever since the Valient thing and I have 2 interviews next week.

But I do understand that the competition is fierce and I may not get a job in pharma so I may have to go back to my old job in a restaurant (cash money). I kinda liked it so it's ok but I'd rather stay in pharma (I like the 20 hr work weeks).

Good luck to me, good luck to you! Screw you, valient. Haha
 












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Dumb joke.

To answer the question (and be a little help to the Ceph folks), here is what I will am doing: I am looking for pharma rep jobs right now like mad!!! I have been looking ever since the Valient thing and I have 2 interviews next week.

But I do understand that the competition is fierce and I may not get a job in pharma so I may have to go back to my old job in a restaurant (cash money). I kinda liked it so it's ok but I'd rather stay in pharma (I like the 20 hr work weeks).

Good luck to me, good luck to you! Screw you, valient. Haha
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Why wouldn't you wait for the severance? Unless, you are a short timer, you may be leaving a lot of money on the table. This deal won't be done until at least September according to KB. In addition, Teva agreed to honor our current severance policy for two years after the completion of the merger. I don't think they appear to be moving at break neck speed to start laying people off. You could be looking at the end of the year until that happens, maybe longer. Now, if your dream job drops in your lap, I say good luck and hit the road. But, other than that, I think it is best to do your best here, hope you can find a spot when the merger is complete, and if not, at least leave with a severance.
 






Maybe I didnt explain myself enough. I will be looking for a job like mad... Then I will try to stay on with teva if I don't get one... And then if I get laid off I will collect my severance and go back to my restaurant gig. Don't worry, I will be getting my severance if I have to go back to waiting tables.
 












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Maybe I didnt explain myself enough. I will be looking for a job like mad... Then I will try to stay on with teva if I don't get one... And then if I get laid off I will collect my severance and go back to my restaurant gig. Don't worry, I will be getting my severance if I have to go back to waiting tables.
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But if you find another Pharma job prior to any decisions from Teva you are leaving? You don't think it's worth waiting it out?
 






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Let's be honest, pharma companies are cutting back, sales jobs in pharma are getting fewer and fewer, all of the laid off reps are competing for the same jobs, not enough jobs to go around... Some of the laid off reps will NOT be able to get back in pharma! Some of the laid off reps will not want to stay in pharma. What other industries and jobs interest you? What can we move into that is as good or better than what we have now?
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First, pharma is dead. Deal with it and move on to another industry. Second, there are always positions for good sales people in the U.S. When I say good there are a few qualifiers. #1. Forget 20 hour weeks and start thinking 50 hour weeks. #2. True sales people are tough to find and from what I have seen at Cephalon- there are not many sales people. I was always amazed how the company had a reputation for hiring young female talent - hair color and bra size being two of the biggest qualifications. Hopefully you understand the sales process and do not think verbal vomiting and showing jaded studies is actually sales. The good news is you will be actually speaking to people who would be interested in buying or using your product. No more talking to gatekeepers who then refer you to a nurse, who then let you see the doctor - on a good day #3. You will be asked to do more with less and you will actually be held accountable for your numbers. (you may actually have to get a purchase order instead of the ridiculous process of waiting one, two or three months to see bullshit made up numbers). #5. You will likely not have someone above you pushing for national account or formulary wins and the top sales people will truly be just that - the cream of the crop. I always laughed my ass off as President Club clowns acted like they were something special. Can you say huge formulary win! #6. Your salary is likely going to be dramatically cut and your performance will dictate how much money you make. #7. Work in an industry that is not as ethically challenged and fills a true need. (Amrix - come on people). Last, but not least - you will probably not have some jack ass manager riding with you for Fantasy Island Days. Your new manager will not give a crap what you are doing as long as the numbers are coming in. Thus the importance of point #1. You will have to bust it hard for several years until you build your client or customer base and buying lunch and coffee's is not going to cut the mustard unless you have something of value you are bringing to the table. I truly wish you the best of luck and I feel sorry for all reps losing their jobs. Pharma was an anomaly and was bound to fail because of flawed logic and business practices. The transition will be painful, but you will get through it.
 
























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First, pharma is dead. Deal with it and move on to another industry. Second, there are always positions for good sales people in the U.S. When I say good there are a few qualifiers. #1. Forget 20 hour weeks and start thinking 50 hour weeks. #2. True sales people are tough to find and from what I have seen at Cephalon- there are not many sales people. I was always amazed how the company had a reputation for hiring young female talent - hair color and bra size being two of the biggest qualifications. Hopefully you understand the sales process and do not think verbal vomiting and showing jaded studies is actually sales. The good news is you will be actually speaking to people who would be interested in buying or using your product. No more talking to gatekeepers who then refer you to a nurse, who then let you see the doctor - on a good day #3. You will be asked to do more with less and you will actually be held accountable for your numbers. (you may actually have to get a purchase order instead of the ridiculous process of waiting one, two or three months to see bullshit made up numbers). #5. You will likely not have someone above you pushing for national account or formulary wins and the top sales people will truly be just that - the cream of the crop. I always laughed my ass off as President Club clowns acted like they were something special. Can you say huge formulary win! #6. Your salary is likely going to be dramatically cut and your performance will dictate how much money you make. #7. Work in an industry that is not as ethically challenged and fills a true need. (Amrix - come on people). Last, but not least - you will probably not have some jack ass manager riding with you for Fantasy Island Days. Your new manager will not give a crap what you are doing as long as the numbers are coming in. Thus the importance of point #1. You will have to bust it hard for several years until you build your client or customer base and buying lunch and coffee's is not going to cut the mustard unless you have something of value you are bringing to the table. I truly wish you the best of luck and I feel sorry for all reps losing their jobs. Pharma was an anomaly and was bound to fail because of flawed logic and business practices. The transition will be painful, but you will get through it.
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Relax. Don't hate the player......I know that you know the rest. Regardless of the setup of the game, Pharma was an easy ride and made many people very solid incomes. Are/Were there some people at Ceph that can't sell - YES. Those people find a way into every company, regardless of what you think. There are many talented people within the Cephalon sales force, I have witnessed it for years. The single biggest problem is that the game has been dumbed down so much, there is not an opportunity to be a player again.

Good luck with that anger issue........
 


















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Why wouldn't you wait for the severance? Unless, you are a short timer, you may be leaving a lot of money on the table. This deal won't be done until at least September according to KB. In addition, Teva agreed to honor our current severance policy for two years after the completion of the merger. I don't think they appear to be moving at break neck speed to start laying people off. You could be looking at the end of the year until that happens, maybe longer. Now, if your dream job drops in your lap, I say good luck and hit the road. But, other than that, I think it is best to do your best here, hope you can find a spot when the merger is complete, and if not, at least leave with a severance.
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Teva did honor the two year contract when they purchased Barr. There werent many layoffs but those that did get let go received their full years salary over the course of 52 weeks plus benefits. I wouldnt expect to be given your notice since the last 3 branded companies they have purchased, the sales force was pretty much left in tact. After the 2 years you might see some contraction if needed as we had about 5% with our division.
 


















BTW, here is the resume of one of the 2 bozos that have been attacking the NC team & the "manger" since January -

Question for CE,
Do you miss Ceph? Is that why you have been cyberbullying the NC team ever since you got laid off from Novartis? Are you jealous that the majority of reps & the "manger" have won multiple PCs and you haven't?

If you are as great as you say you are, why do you feel the need to lie on your resume?

http://www.postjobfree.com/resume/zrzxem/physician-pharmaceutical-cns-rocky-mount-nc-27804

We never had a Number New Hire Award for Launch and you weren't 18th.... Really Craig?? That is pathetic.
 






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