-
Make it like cafepharma, but for different industries. Learn more about CompanyUnderground
Waiting on a call Jan. 2
- Thread starter Anonymous
- Start date
-
- Tags
- None
Not a chance. We are not organized enough at this point to make that happen. Layoffs take a lot of preparation and legal analysis. Won't be too long, but not the 2nd.
Agree with the above the poster it won't happen that soon.
It takes quite a while to set up one of these layoffs. There is a process and HR will be working very hard in January.
It takes quite a while to set up one of these layoffs. There is a process and HR will be working very hard in January.
OMG you people need to slow down. It won't be happening on the 4th either!!
Think about it....they need to everyones year end review so they can figure out who got the 1's. These need to be done by end of January and this will now probably be done by mid January. Otherwise they would have to use rankings for 2010.
If you read the email. the teleconference on the 4th is to talk more about Aliskiran etc, they will probably tell you all about sending samples back etc.
YOu all know its going to happen just don't rush it and enjoy this last month that we have
You know, this is kind of a awkward situation. While I would love to get layed-off from Novartis and get a sweet severance package...the thought of the job search sucks. I've been looking since July in my geography. Avoiding pharma, looking at devices, medical equipment, supplies, etc.... but nothing seems to be dropping into place. There simply doesn't seem to be a lot out there. If you get a medreps.com membership, half of the stuff on there says "Pharma reps need not apply". So, what is a brother to do? I want to get out of pharma, I'm looking for an industry that values a human being with a bachelors degree and some experience interacting in a professional environment.
Let's be collaborative here people...we're not all in the same city, so we are not going to be each other's competition. Let's share some ideas.
RTKPLEDE says he got into device at the age of 62 or something. How do we find those small device companies? Where do they advertise?
Let's be collaborative here people...we're not all in the same city, so we are not going to be each other's competition. Let's share some ideas.
RTKPLEDE says he got into device at the age of 62 or something. How do we find those small device companies? Where do they advertise?
I know RT and he does not look anywhere near 62. He looks in his mid to late 40's if you ask me and yes I know the real RT. I think he said he learned of the position thru networking. Look at his older posts. He mentioned a site that another guy used to find the job but I don't remember the name, if I see him I will ask.
RTBKPL
Member
- RTBKPL Dec 23, 2011 at 07:47: PM
RTBKPL
Member
The representative who was hired a the same time as myself said he found the listing on "SIMPLY HIRED." Headhunters might also be helpful, if you meet them face to face, they like your personality and presentation they can at least get you an interview. From there it's up to you.
Don't let those "need not apply" things keep you from applying. I managed a couple of interviews even though I sensed they were looking for the 30 something type and I was more than twice that age. They can't ask your age and you don't have to tell them. In my case I had to write a somewhat shortened and modified Resume. Having 24 years of pharma experience clearly indicated that I would have been in at least my middle 40's. I left out 10 years of experience in another medical environment and my military background which clearly would have more closely indicated my true age. It's not lying, it's just not telling the whole story. I moved forward in all but one interview process making it to the last round three times, two of those in devices or disposables.
As for the company that hired he, it was via networking. A hiring manager mentioned to someone who knew I was looking that he was looking for a sales rep. I still had to interview with a total of 6 people to finally get an offer. In this case I used my complete and comprehensive Resume. I sensed that it would be to my advantage. The competition is there but interview all you can, each time you do you get better. Admittedly it didn't hurt that someone in the hiring line knew me.
Remember to get a business card from everyone you interview with and follow up IMMEDIATELY with a thank you email. On a couple of occasions I went right to a WIFI place and cranked out a letter. They had it within half an hour of the interview and one responded immediately with an invitation to move forward in the process. I didn't get the job but I did make an impression.
Look for small companies and be prepared to get lots of windshield time.
Good luck my friends and remember.....
Never let the Bastards get you down.
RTBKPL
BULLSHIT, RUTGERS-BOSTON COLLEGE DID A STUDY OF PEOPLE OVER 50 THAT LOST THEIR JOB, 76% NEVER FIND ANOTHER JOB THAT'S A FACT. I'VE BEEN OUT OF WORK FOR A YEAR, YOU KNOW HOW MANY INTERVIEWS I'VE HAD 4 THAT'S IT IN EACH CASE I'VE HAD ALL THE CREDENTIALS REQUIRED THEN GOT ALTHOUGH YOUR RESUME IS IMPRESSIVE WE WENT WITH SOMEONE WHO BETTER FITS OUR NEEDS. THEN I SEE WHO THEY HIRED 20 YEARS YOUNGER THAT'S A FACT . GET A BUSINESS CARD GOOD LUCK MY OLD BOSS TOLD ME HE MAKES IT A POINT NOT TO GIVE A CARD TO ANYBODY HE DOESN'T WANT TO BOTHERED OR STALKED SO DON'T GIVE YOUR BLAH BLAH
so if it doesn't come on the second, does it come on the 9th, 20th, you know it is coming
I agree with the above poster. Your problem is your attitude. I was let go, I am over 60 and found a job. Any of the reps I know that were let go last year that really wanted a job are now working. If you can't find work you either have poor interviewing skills, refuse to look outside the current pharma industry, or carry your anger and pessism into the interview process. I would guess that you had not made any inroads before the layoff. I would guess that you were complacent and assumed that you would have your catering gig forever. You have to continue to get out every day, and not think that pouring out resumes will get you an interview. It requires footwork, windshield time as RT states, and viewing the search as a job.
I agree with the others. Think you may have some issues. Everyone I know that was layed off last year found a job. MAybe it's you, ever think of that. I can't believe that study either. So someone that's 50 may never work again. How do they live?
The truth is that companies are looking for younger reps not because of age but beacuse of salaries. Older reps have been around and paid their dues. They have moved up the latter in compensation and usually make a lot more money than a rep who has 2-4 yrs experience.
All you guys know this and that is the main reason why age is a factor. The other idea is "you can't teach an old dog new tricks". many companies want to train their reps who have limited experience and mold them to the company guidelines.
Older reps have been around and know the ropes and at times "think out of the box" something most of the companies don't like. They want "yes" men and women who do exactly what the company tells them to do. Give a younger inexperienced rep marching orders and he/she will do it. Give an older rep the same orders and he/she will find a better way and more productive way of doing it but not by the exact guidelines.
This is the cold hard facts. I'm not saying that older reps can't find jobs. I am saying in this poor economic enviorment $$$ are causing companies to make decisions on who they employ.
All you guys know this and that is the main reason why age is a factor. The other idea is "you can't teach an old dog new tricks". many companies want to train their reps who have limited experience and mold them to the company guidelines.
Older reps have been around and know the ropes and at times "think out of the box" something most of the companies don't like. They want "yes" men and women who do exactly what the company tells them to do. Give a younger inexperienced rep marching orders and he/she will do it. Give an older rep the same orders and he/she will find a better way and more productive way of doing it but not by the exact guidelines.
This is the cold hard facts. I'm not saying that older reps can't find jobs. I am saying in this poor economic enviorment $$$ are causing companies to make decisions on who they employ.