Vaccine VCKL positions selections

[Anonymous]

The positions have now been announced and I think the choices were mostly good people, but it seems like they just booted good PSAE's who were quite capable of doing the same job, and hired younger, fresher people.

 

[Anonymous]

oops I meant VKCL

 

[Anonymous]

That's not true. You didn't consider the fact that these "good PSAEs" simply decided not to go for the positions. They weren't booted per se. It was their choice not to apply.

 

[Anonymous]

The positions have now been announced and I think the choices were mostly good people, but it seems like they just booted good PSAE's who were quite capable of doing the same job, and hired younger, fresher people.

When was the announcement? We have not heard anything.

 

[Anonymous]

They were worthless when they started these positions in 1998. The existing vaccine reps calling on all touch points were doing a great job handling the public sector as well as any other opportunities. I am bitter b/c I was not picked to be this person in the day as I knew it would pay off big time for my bank account. They ended up getting labeled as "Managers" and got the big time bonus to go along with it. I had many shared company meetings with them where they blew in for 3 days== spewed 20 minutes worth of stuff we knew and then skipped off to go shopping or sight seeing. They averaged $150K per year with bonus. The rep for years in Florida was MIA. When they were needed to get something done== they were also MIA or were clueless. Most did not even try or know how to ask for business. "We are Educators" not sales reps I was told many times. I feel the same way about the RAM's when they started them. MGAM's are a complete JOKE. We vaccine folk would get all the business and they would steal the credit. Glad I am out of this shit hole and glad these folks have a taste that the real world exists. Hope many of you got a bridge to retirement. You will need it in this market.

From reading some threads on here== Most you sales rep Merckies gonna get a taste of real world downsizing as well. Have fun looking for work. It sucks and join the "It will Never Happen to Me World".

 

[Anonymous]

They were worthless when they started these positions in 1998. The existing vaccine reps calling on all touch points were doing a great job handling the public sector as well as any other opportunities. I am bitter b/c I was not picked to be this person in the day as I knew it would pay off big time for my bank account. They ended up getting labeled as "Managers" and got the big time bonus to go along with it. I had many shared company meetings with them where they blew in for 3 days== spewed 20 minutes worth of stuff we knew and then skipped off to go shopping or sight seeing. They averaged $150K per year with bonus. The rep for years in Florida was MIA. When they were needed to get something done== they were also MIA or were clueless. Most did not even try or know how to ask for business. "We are Educators" not sales reps I was told many times. I feel the same way about the RAM's when they started them. MGAM's are a complete JOKE. We vaccine folk would get all the business and they would steal the credit. Glad I am out of this shit hole and glad these folks have a taste that the real world exists. Hope many of you got a bridge to retirement. You will need it in this market.

From reading some threads on here== Most you sales rep Merckies gonna get a taste of real world downsizing as well. Have fun looking for work. It sucks and join the "It will Never Happen to Me World".

Quite the diatribe. You must be "one of those". Always claiming to be screwed over. Always passed by.

 

[Anonymous]

Email went out end of day Friday, still 8 left open. Several CTLs took the new position over managing a team or being on the chopping block themselves.

Meeting in Chicago will be interesting!

 

[Anonymous]

So how many PSAEs remained in the new position?

Sorry to see how quickly & badly they were just dumped to the curb?

It could happen to any of us any day!

 

[Anonymous]

They were worthless when they started these positions in 1998. The existing vaccine reps calling on all touch points were doing a great job handling the public sector as well as any other opportunities. I am bitter b/c I was not picked to be this person in the day as I knew it would pay off big time for my bank account. They ended up getting labeled as "Managers" and got the big time bonus to go along with it. I had many shared company meetings with them where they blew in for 3 days== spewed 20 minutes worth of stuff we knew and then skipped off to go shopping or sight seeing. They averaged $150K per year with bonus. The rep for years in Florida was MIA. When they were needed to get something done== they were also MIA or were clueless. Most did not even try or know how to ask for business. "We are Educators" not sales reps I was told many times. I feel the same way about the RAM's when they started them. MGAM's are a complete JOKE. We vaccine folk would get all the business and they would steal the credit. Glad I am out of this shit hole and glad these folks have a taste that the real world exists. Hope many of you got a bridge to retirement. You will need it in this market.

From reading some threads on here== Most you sales rep Merckies gonna get a taste of real world downsizing as well. Have fun looking for work. It sucks and join the "It will Never Happen to Me World".

True that..

 

[Anonymous]

They were worthless when they started these positions in 1998. The existing vaccine reps calling on all touch points were doing a great job handling the public sector as well as any other opportunities. I am bitter b/c I was not picked to be this person in the day as I knew it would pay off big time for my bank account. They ended up getting labeled as "Managers" and got the big time bonus to go along with it. I had many shared company meetings with them where they blew in for 3 days== spewed 20 minutes worth of stuff we knew and then skipped off to go shopping or sight seeing. They averaged $150K per year with bonus. The rep for years in Florida was MIA. When they were needed to get something done== they were also MIA or were clueless. Most did not even try or know how to ask for business. "We are Educators" not sales reps I was told many times. I feel the same way about the RAM's when they started them. MGAM's are a complete JOKE. We vaccine folk would get all the business and they would steal the credit. Glad I am out of this shit hole and glad these folks have a taste that the real world exists. Hope many of you got a bridge to retirement. You will need it in this market.

From reading some threads on here== Most you sales rep Merckies gonna get a taste of real world downsizing as well. Have fun looking for work. It sucks and join the "It will Never Happen to Me World".

Many of these new VKCL's will be pulling the same tactics as the MGAM's - stealing ideas and begging for contacts from the MSVCR's. Some these VKCL's are former managers and they are going to get a full dose of reality when they try to get in some of these IDS's without a rep setting up a milk run for them - like they are accustomed to receiving.

 

[Anonymous]

Many of these new VKCL's will be pulling the same tactics as the MGAM's - stealing ideas and begging for contacts from the MSVCR's. Some these VKCL's are former managers and they are going to get a full dose of reality when they try to get in some of these IDS's without a rep setting up a milk run for them - like they are accustomed to receiving.

If you have a good CTL you won't be answering to two managers,which was my concern. You would be working with your district and CTL... Not off on a VKCLs project of the month......It's all good....DID...

 

[Anonymous]

The positions have now been announced and I think the choices were mostly good people, but it seems like they just booted good PSAE's who were quite capable of doing the same job, and hired younger, fresher people.

The dust hasn't even settled yet and T. Nichols is abandoning the destruction he helped cause. What a weasel. He won't be missed.

 

[Anonymous]

They were worthless when they started these positions in 1998. The existing vaccine reps calling on all touch points were doing a great job handling the public sector as well as any other opportunities. I am bitter b/c I was not picked to be this person in the day as I knew it would pay off big time for my bank account. They ended up getting labeled as "Managers" and got the big time bonus to go along with it. I had many shared company meetings with them where they blew in for 3 days== spewed 20 minutes worth of stuff we knew and then skipped off to go shopping or sight seeing. They averaged $150K per year with bonus. The rep for years in Florida was MIA. When they were needed to get something done== they were also MIA or were clueless. Most did not even try or know how to ask for business. "We are Educators" not sales reps I was told many times. I feel the same way about the RAM's when they started them. MGAM's are a complete JOKE. We vaccine folk would get all the business and they would steal the credit. Glad I am out of this shit hole and glad these folks have a taste that the real world exists. Hope many of you got a bridge to retirement. You will need it in this market.

From reading some threads on here== Most you sales rep Merckies gonna get a taste of real world downsizing as well. Have fun looking for work. It sucks and join the "It will Never Happen to Me World".

The RAMs were decent and well worth it- I always worked well with mine as I only called them in if I really needed help and they always came through the few times I did need "outside" help. MGAMs are better known as MSCAMs.