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I just like the way ALL you guys like to bash a product you know nothing about, nor do you sound intelligent trying speak on its behalf.  If you guys are such awesome reps and have such a prophetic knowledge of things, then have the balls to put your name on the posts.  Thunderbeat is a Better product than ANY of the technology currently available.  Ligasure is a close second with outcomes, but Ethicon will always find a way to polish their harmonic terd.  Remember kids.......play nice, and if you don't have anything nice to say, DON"T SAY IT!!!