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I am grazing in greener pastures as retired from MJN after 30 years with a great 401K, pension plan,  social security and medicare. Life at MJ was great for many years and years ago we did had some good leaders (and some very bad, egotistical, drunk ones as well). Sorry that many of you who are young never got or never will get to experience it and can't retire with dignity and over a million dollars in your savings accounts. BMS (and at one time their stock in the '70's and '80's) was very, very good and put a lot of money in my pockets. The industry has changed and the times have changed but that is life...you just have to adapt.