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Private Equity firms are bailing on Warner Chilcott due to the imminent $500 million plus fine from the OIG for illegal promotional tactics. The FBI and OIG have been hard at work. This is also the reason that the company could not sell itself - no other company is stupid enough to take on the liability created by the type A crazy strategy of Roger and Carl. Any outsider who spent time with them could predict this was going to happen at some point. The unethical culture that rewards results at any cost is not sustainable. Now that they've destroyed the brands they bought, screwed up managed care, and have totally lost the trust of GE's in their biggest franchise Asacol the house of cards will tumble. Sure they'll get their money back through the dividends and payouts but the real value of those assets is lost. Great job Roger....you will be fired either shortly before or after the fine is announced. This is not a joke. Wait and see....
 






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Private Equity firms are bailing on Warner Chilcott due to the imminent $500 million plus fine from the OIG for illegal promotional tactics. The FBI and OIG have been hard at work. This is also the reason that the company could not sell itself - no other company is stupid enough to take on the liability created by the type A crazy strategy of Roger and Carl. Any outsider who spent time with them could predict this was going to happen at some point. The unethical culture that rewards results at any cost is not sustainable. Now that they've destroyed the brands they bought, screwed up managed care, and have totally lost the trust of GE's in their biggest franchise Asacol the house of cards will tumble. Sure they'll get their money back through the dividends and payouts but the real value of those assets is lost. Great job Roger....you will be fired either shortly before or after the fine is announced. This is not a joke. Wait and see....
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Searched all over the web about this supposed "fine". Yet another rumor started by a hater. Please provide us with a link to a reputable website site referencing this so called fine.
 






The big shareholders wanted roger fired, it didn't happen and that is why they are selling their stock. That is the simplicity of it. Quit reading too much into it. We have been waiting for this apparently inevitable fine for over a year now! It must be a doozy when it finally comes to fruition.
 






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Searched all over the web about this supposed "fine". Yet another rumor started by a hater. Please provide us with a link to a reputable website site referencing this so called fine.
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Imminent means in the near future. Just wait. It's only a matter of time. Call the FBI hotline and you will see how serious this really is. Herendeen just sold 300,000 shares because he knows the sales continue to decline and the big fine on top of that means a lower stock price. Where there is smoke there's fire. No hater here. That is too kind of a word. Can't wait to see who goes to jail and how much they are fined.
 






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Searched all over the web about this supposed "fine". Yet another rumor started by a hater. Please provide us with a link to a reputable website site referencing this so called fine.
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idiot (or should I say lenny), use that device known as google. its getting very popular.

february 27,2012 - WC receives subpoena for multiple bribery charges linked to ALL wc products. All employees received an email with this info along with a "non-destruction" notice in order for gather evidence.
 






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idiot (or should I say lenny), use that device known as google. its getting very popular.

february 27,2012 - WC receives subpoena for multiple bribery charges linked to ALL wc products. All employees received an email with this info along with a "non-destruction" notice in order for gather evidence.
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So Im an "Idiot". Your quote above is absolutely correct, it states that there is/was an INVESTIGATION. It does not say that WC is guilty, and that they have been fined even a single dollar. These investigations happen all the time in this industry, and others, with no fine levied at all. I have had emails demanded so many times, that I simply stopped writing them

Again, as I said. I there is NO pending fine for WC, as of now. If you believe there is. If you insist that there is, please provide us with a link to a credible source. I have searched far and wide and found nothing.

Is there an investigation? Do investigations occur wit most drug companies, at some point in time, maybe sevaral? Yes, they are NOT uncommon. Do YOU have emails or voice mails of senior leadership instructing you to do illegal things? I doubt it (if so, please share the document). YES

If you can not even prove your point, you are simply rumor mongering like an idiotic little girl.
 






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So Im an "Idiot". Your quote above is absolutely correct, it states that there is/was an INVESTIGATION. It does not say that WC is guilty, and that they have been fined even a single dollar. These investigations happen all the time in this industry, and others, with no fine levied at all. I have had emails demanded so many times, that I simply stopped writing them

Again, as I said. I there is NO pending fine for WC, as of now. If you believe there is. If you insist that there is, please provide us with a link to a credible source. I have searched far and wide and found nothing.

Is there an investigation? Do investigations occur wit most drug companies, at some point in time, maybe sevaral? Yes, they are NOT uncommon. Do YOU have emails or voice mails of senior leadership instructing you to do illegal things? I doubt it (if so, please share the document). YES

If you can not even prove your point, you are simply rumor mongering like an idiotic little girl.
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Thanks Amber. I'll leave another message from with the tape recording I gave the FBI. Obviously you don't know how much a whistle blower can make...therefore the incentive is great.....have you ever heard of a pen recording. I loved it when I was in your daddy's office and he was complimenting me on how I got my team to complete so many fraudulent PA's. He didn't only condone it he rewarded it. He will look good in orange and so will you.
 






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Thanks Amber. I'll leave another message from with the tape recording I gave the FBI. Obviously you don't know how much a whistle blower can make...therefore the incentive is great.....have you ever heard of a pen recording. I loved it when I was in your daddy's office and he was complimenting me on how I got my team to complete so many fraudulent PA's. He didn't only condone it he rewarded it. He will look good in orange and so will you.
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Stop the obfuscation! You said (if you are the OP) that there will be a multi billion dollar fine against Warner Chilcott. No one debates that there are allegations; these types of allegations are extremely common in the industry, and are not the same as "conviction". The bottomline, you definatively state that there will be a multi-billion fine; I say that there "may" or "may not" be a fine.

You arev stating your rumor as a known fact, and I challenege you to PUT UP OR SHUT UP! Provide documented proof your your assertion, and at least have the courtesy to admit that you are merely speculating.
 












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Stop the obfuscation! You said (if you are the OP) that there will be a multi billion dollar fine against Warner Chilcott. No one debates that there are allegations; these types of allegations are extremely common in the industry, and are not the same as "conviction". The bottomline, you definatively state that there will be a multi-billion fine; I say that there "may" or "may not" be a fine.

You arev stating your rumor as a known fact, and I challenege you to PUT UP OR SHUT UP! Provide documented proof your your assertion, and at least have the courtesy to admit that you are merely speculating.
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.....Warner Chilcott due to the imminent $500 million plus ....Thanks again Amber. You sound about as smart as Carl right now....Where do you get multi-billion from? Obviously you read about as well as you listen on field visits and to your DM's. WC will actually be lucky if it is only $500 million. Your CFO just sold 75% of his shares because he know what the fine will be because he's negotiating it....Private equity knows so they sold too...only Daddy is too arrogant to sell his shares because he's above the law....Quit acting like a little cream puff!
 






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Whatever, we will pay a fine and be business as usual just like every other Pharma company. Get a life.
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You are an ignorant cream puff~ If you were a type A crazy you'd be doing your "homework" tonight and filling out some PA's or at least bribing some doctors. The culture of this company is rotten. As a result reps, DM's, and Sr. Managers have made poor decisions across the country. This lack of control will contribute to the fine. We'll see how good it feels on November 15.
 






Well for one, you are a complete d-bag and have no idea what you are talking about. So, whatever, Nov. 15th or not. The faxed PA's was an issue in one of our divisions with select people, however, from what I understand, fine or not, there will be significant cuts to the Osteo division come December. A small percentage of WHC will be cut too. These have nothing to do with any fine that may or may not come. You are not special (well, maybe you are) and you don't work for this company so go troll elsewhere.
 






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Well for one, you are a complete d-bag and have no idea what you are talking about. So, whatever, Nov. 15th or not. The faxed PA's was an issue in one of our divisions with select people, however, from what I understand, fine or not, there will be significant cuts to the Osteo division come December. A small percentage of WHC will be cut too. These have nothing to do with any fine that may or may not come. You are not special (well, maybe you are) and you don't work for this company so go troll elsewhere.
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Wait till November 15....you will see young cream puff. Drink Cool Aid = Go To Jail! Enjoy the orange suit....oh and by the way if you are lucky enough to not get nailed you will be black balled in the industry. No one will touch you with the black mark of Warner Chilcott on our dark heart.
 












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Wait till November 15....you will see young cream puff. Drink Cool Aid = Go To Jail! Enjoy the orange suit....oh and by the way if you are lucky enough to not get nailed you will be black balled in the industry. No one will touch you with the black mark of Warner Chilcott on our dark heart.
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You are a f-in weird individual. Why do you care so much to take time out of your day to come on here a declare exact dates anyways? What a joke!
 






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You are a f-in weird individual. Why do you care so much to take time out of your day to come on here a declare exact dates anyways? What a joke!
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Why aren't you out bribing doctors, taking staffs out to bogus lunches, and filling out fake PA's, and being your usual unethical self? I guess you copies salesman don't really know what professional selling is all about. You'll be on a PIP in no time! Good luck at your slimy little company whose stock is dropping like a stone.
 






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.....Warner Chilcott due to the imminent $500 million plus ....Thanks again Amber. You sound about as smart as Carl right now....Where do you get multi-billion from? Obviously you read about as well as you listen on field visits and to your DM's. WC will actually be lucky if it is only $500 million. Your CFO just sold 75% of his shares because he know what the fine will be because he's negotiating it....Private equity knows so they sold too...only Daddy is too arrogant to sell his shares because he's above the law....Quit acting like a little cream puff!
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I ask again, where is your proof of a pending fine? I say again, without documented proof you are merely speculating, and you should simply admit it. Again, PUT UP OR SHUT UP!
 






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I ask again, where is your proof of a pending fine? I say again, without documented proof you are merely speculating, and you should simply admit it. Again, PUT UP OR SHUT UP!
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Where thes is smoke there is fire young Type A crazy! Respect your elders and those in the know.....you will not go wrong. $500 million is conservative based on the awards for companies with similiar market cap. If this is Amber shouldn't you be checking your rep tracker to see who is still getting signatures today?
 






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Where thes is smoke there is fire young Type A crazy! Respect your elders and those in the know.....you will not go wrong. $500 million is conservative based on the awards for companies with similiar market cap. If this is Amber shouldn't you be checking your rep tracker to see who is still getting signatures today?
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Again, WHERE IS YOUR PROOF! AT LEAST HAVE THE DECENCY OF ACKNOWLEDGING THAT YOU ARE SPREADING A RUMOR< AND STOP STATING IT AS FACT!
 












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