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Dirty guys w/ options and now RSUs - don't trust those things, particularly if you are given a large amount on signing. you lose them after you leave the company, even if vested
 






The only guys who made money (let me rephrase... significant money) were the executives... sell millions before releasing end of quarter results anyone? How the SEC is not all over them is beyond me.
 






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Dirty guys w/ options and now RSUs - don't trust those things, particularly if you are given a large amount on signing. you lose them after you leave the company, even if vested
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I've been here for many years. Not an exec, and I bought my home w/ Intuitive stock. Who the hell told you lose shares after you leave? Like ANY company who offers shares, you have to sell them w/in 3 months of leaving. The shares were GIVEN to you! Why in the hell would they let you keep those shares indefinitely after you leave??
 






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I've been here for many years. Not an exec, and I bought my home w/ Intuitive stock. Who the hell told you lose shares after you leave? Like ANY company who offers shares, you have to sell them w/in 3 months of leaving. The shares were GIVEN to you! Why in the hell would they let you keep those shares indefinitely after you leave??
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Ummm...your way off base here regarding "like any company..sell within 3 months". I'm not sure what kind of program ISRG has, but that is not standard. Once "vested" in most instances they belong to you, to do with as you please (hold or sell).

Just seems weird that they were "given" but you can't keep em.. My current employer has an ESP and a Restricted plan. In both plans, once vested, they are mine.
 






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Ummm...your way off base here regarding "like any company..sell within 3 months". I'm not sure what kind of program ISRG has, but that is not standard. Once "vested" in most instances they belong to you, to do with as you please (hold or sell).

Just seems weird that they were "given" but you can't keep em.. My current employer has an ESP and a Restricted plan. In both plans, once vested, they are mine.
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once vested they are your assuming you execute your option to purchase them (for stock options). all stock purchased is yours immediately.

love all the comments how you get screwed.... bottom line as with any company that includes stock option programs as a part of the compensation, the earlier you get in the greater chance you make more money if the company does well than those who jump on board later. its called sweat equity for a reason.
 






Anonymous said:
Ummm...your way off base here regarding "like any company..sell within 3 months". I'm not sure what kind of program ISRG has, but that is not standard. Once "vested" in most instances they belong to you, to do with as you please (hold or sell).

Just seems weird that they were "given" but you can't keep em.. My current employer has an ESP and a Restricted plan. In both plans, once vested, they are mine.
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We too have ESPP and a restricted stock purchase plan. ESPP & restricted stock is totally different then the shares that Intuitive gives us. We pay for ESPP at a discount. That's why the shares our ours when the vest. Intuitive is one of the only public, high-valued stock companies that gives shares to every employee. Most companies only gives shares to execs. All companies that offer shares (not ESPP) require you to sell when you leave. You are getting ESPP and shares confused.
 






what would you rather have?

200 shares of ISRG at $506/share= $101,000

or

41,224 shares of TITXF at $2.45= $101,000

Titan hits new all time high today at $2.51. If you missed the boat with ISRG you can still get on team Titan!! Your days of having 100% market share will soon be over. You know as well as I that their will be competition. Come join the fun!!
 






If you bought $41,000 shares of a penny stock, you're a fucking idiot. How about the 1,000 shares I got at $90 when I started that are now worth $490,000 that I didn't have to pay a SINGLE dime for?
 






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If you bought $41,000 shares of a penny stock, you're a fucking idiot. How about the 1,000 shares I got at $90 when I started that are now worth $490,000 that I didn't have to pay a SINGLE dime for?
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Well you are special! June 23, of 2000 ISRG I believe went public for around $10.00. I can't research any further than that but one would assume it was a penny stock as well. Maybe you would know...

Bottom line.. Titan medical is a penny stock but will soon be your competitor. In their April filings of this year... It says...Tissue testing compete, Tissue validation complete and Alpha Prototype complete. Keep drinking the ISRG cool aide while many of us ride the Titan Train..

I am one of the F'in fools and have over 100,000 shares at .90. With today's pricing at or around 2.38 and volume double ISRG, this stock and this company will be here before you know it..
 






Anonymous said:
If you bought $41,000 shares of a penny stock, you're a fucking idiot. How about the 1,000 shares I got at $90 when I started that are now worth $490,000 that I didn't have to pay a SINGLE dime for?
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You are the only one left with that tenure. Unless you count your daddy JA and CB.... oh wait, they voy rid of CB. Yeah.... you and your daddy.
 












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