Snakes and lies

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Zoll is a bunch of scum bags using and abusing pharma reps.. They trick pharma reps into being a "device" rep... They reveuit pharma reps with great cardiology contacts and sell then on leaving pharma and getting into device..

Truth is you can still make 150 -170 plus great benefits and a great quality of life in pharma... Or go to zoll bust your ass and maybe make 110...

If you are young and want to use them for a device resume builder than go for it .. If you're leaving because you're bored and getting suckered by a recruiter think twice
 






Hate to burst your bubble, but this job isn't device and won't help you get a device job. If you're joint for that "device" experience please know that you will not get this and true device companies do not want to hire LV employees.
 






Hate to burst your bubble, but this job isn't device and won't help you get a device job. If you're joint for that "device" experience please know that you will not get this and true device companies do not want to hire LV employees.

In today's market, the ONLY way you are getting high end device is if you know someone.

Funny thing is that device isn't that great. A lot of headaches, if you are starting today. Some that got lucky and started in the 2000s, 1990s, are doing well because they have built up the contacts and it was a good industry then.

My suggestion is to stick with pharmaceuticals, all the way. Less stress. Good money. If you keep your expenses down and invest well, you will be fine.

Lots of device reps are alcoholics, divorced, and have to deal with the worst types of providers vs. the pharmaceutical reps that don't.

Also, the newbies are so enthusiastic and don't understand the real world, and do well in device because they think its good money for all the crap they have to take from management and customers.
 






In today's market, the ONLY way you are getting high end device is if you know someone.

Funny thing is that device isn't that great. A lot of headaches, if you are starting today. Some that got lucky and started in the 2000s, 1990s, are doing well because they have built up the contacts and it was a good industry then.

My suggestion is to stick with pharmaceuticals, all the way. Less stress. Good money. If you keep your expenses down and invest well, you will be fine.

Lots of device reps are alcoholics, divorced, and have to deal with the worst types of providers vs. the pharmaceutical reps that don't.

Also, the newbies are so enthusiastic and don't understand the real world, and do well in device because they think its good money for all the crap they have to take from management and customers.

I dont know who you are, if your a Zoll employee, a former device guy, a current device guy, but....you are spot on in your assessment of and the characterization of a device rep. I have been one for 25 years and the headaches along the way have been many. Not to say that there has not been some fantastic income years, but I think when you weigh the positives against the negatives, one could argue a safe, rewarding and headache free pharma career would compare quite nicely!
 






I dont know who you are, if your a Zoll employee, a former device guy, a current device guy, but....you are spot on in your assessment of and the characterization of a device rep. I have been one for 25 years and the headaches along the way have been many. Not to say that there has not been some fantastic income years, but I think when you weigh the positives against the negatives, one could argue a safe, rewarding and headache free pharma career would compare quite nicely!

Thank you for the complement.

I have about 20 years in sales. 10 in pharmaceuticals, 5 in surgical, 3 in DME, 2 in other industries, not medical related.

Pharmaceuticals has been, by far, the best industry.

Surgical is tough because the surgeons' ego is too much to deal with. You really have to be a sell out to stay I surgical or a push over or someone who puts money number one in life. I just am not that guy. I did it for the challenge and because I had a big ego as well.

Anyway, when I let my ego go, I realized that I just had to be content with selling pharmaceutical, making close to or around 100k is good enough for me. I don't spend anything, so I save a lot of that cash.

Also, DME was a joke, because there is too much paperwork and regulations. It was a great business years ago, because Medicaid approved everything.

Anyway, these medical companies are always going to do well because people with big egos and are money hungry don't understand that they are getting played and wasting their lives getting stressed out for the almighty dollar.

The youngsters, usually under 40, are the biggest victims. Trust me, when they hit 45, they know they got played. Hopefully by that time, they have enough money saved and can move onto other things.

Also, do you notice how the managers in these industries love to hire the youngsters? And, they last into their 60s, because they just sit around, train a little, do a few field rides, and ride the backs of these hard working youngsters!

finally, the other industries are definitely good to work for, but you are not making enough money to justify the micromanagement. In pharmaceuticals, we are micromanaged, but the job is not that hard (hopefully you have a smart manager) and the pay is very good.

Ok, that's it. Thanks again for your reply. I hope to hear from you again. Let me know what you think of the future of pharmaceuticals, because that is where I am staying for a long, long time!