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What do you mean by severed? Leaving with a severance package?

You have to be let go via re-org, redundancy, etc. Don't say you want to leave and want a package. That guarantees that you will stay. If anything, talk about what a nightmare it would be to lose your job- bills, kids in school, elderly parents, etc. - and you will move to the front of the Let Go Line.
 






anonymous said:
What do you mean by severed? Leaving with a severance package?

You have to be let go via re-org, redundancy, etc. Don't say you want to leave and want a package. That guarantees that you will stay. If anything, talk about what a nightmare it would be to lose your job- bills, kids in school, elderly parents, etc. - and you will move to the front of the Let Go Line.
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I was referencing exactly that. How to get a package if kept after a massive reorg.
 
























anonymous said:
Sorry to hear it. However, in the endless game of musical chairs, your time will eventually come. Never indicate that you WANT to go. The days of "volunteering" are over.
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You are correct in that it seems like the massive head count reductions in the sales force are a thing of the past. Partly because we have a lot fewer reps in the field than we did 10-15 years ago. I'm sure severances will be given her and there however I would not be holding my breath for one.
If you don't like it here try going somewhere else. You might enjoy it with another company and have fun.
 






If your boss is cool , tell him you want to leave and get him/her to start managing you out. It will take 3-4 months but you can get a package that way . I know several people that have done that successfully
 






anonymous said:
If your boss is cool , tell him you want to leave and get him/her to start managing you out. It will take 3-4 months but you can get a package that way . I know several people that have done that successfully
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Risky. What if your boss isn't as "cool" as you think? Bide your time and keep your mouth shut. The bell is going to toll for everyone.
 






If your boss isn’t “cool” then just start sucking at your job and give them reasons to manage you out. Lots of people at GSK have done it that way. Start questioning strategies , policies etc…. It will work.
 






anonymous said:
If your boss isn’t “cool” then just start sucking at your job and give them reasons to manage you out. Lots of people at GSK have done it that way. Start questioning strategies , policies etc…. It will work.
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Wouldn’t doing this just get you fired or when you get managed out does that come with a package as well?
 












The official name of this is termination by agreement.

Yes, the solution is to be consistently mediocre or half-ass in your job. Do the selling part poorly.

Don’t do something stupid like cheat on an expense report or commit a severe compliance violation. They can fire quick and easy for those.

Fail to complete some tasks on timely basis. Display a attitude of complacency and openly complain about aspects of the org to your manager.

As they begin to manage you out, continue the pattern of poor performance with an occasional improvement but follow that quickly with another poor attitude episode.

You’ll get an offer. A full termination is a lot of work and not without legal risk for the org. Termination by agreement gets you out more easily for them and you waive rights to pursue any legal action. In other words, they buy you out.
 






anonymous said:
The official name of this is termination by agreement.

Yes, the solution is to be consistently mediocre or half-ass in your job. Do the selling part poorly.

Don’t do something stupid like cheat on an expense report or commit a severe compliance violation. They can fire quick and easy for those.

Fail to complete some tasks on timely basis. Display a attitude of complacency and openly complain about aspects of the org to your manager.

As they begin to manage you out, continue the pattern of poor performance with an occasional improvement but follow that quickly with another poor attitude episode.

You’ll get an offer. A full termination is a lot of work and not without legal risk for the org. Termination by agreement gets you out more easily for them and you waive rights to pursue any legal action. In other words, they buy you out.
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Excellent advice. Occasionally wetting your pants can speed up this process.
 












Facts on this board. After you start sucking at your job and the boss starts in you can also throw in that you do not feel like you are being treated fairly in relation to your peers. Overall they will put you on a PIP and you will be managed out and end up getting offered a severance or TBA. Play the game. Half ass everything. And get what you deserve from this unethical and mismanaged company.
 












anonymous said:
well since it seems as though they are pressured to manager people out and give bad ratings I am sure that they would love to have a volunteer.
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Maybe it depends on what business area you are in and the ultimate plan. If you're in an area where eventually everyone will go (like IT) then you don't need volunteers. I've known a few who have "volunteered" repeatedly and are never so lucky.
 






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