Rheumatology team- Otezla

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anonymous

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Looking for honest feedback please. I am currently in rheumatology for another organization but have been contacted by a recruiter for a position at Amgen promoting Otezla. I asked my providers about it and they told me that Otezla has been a great medication but resources have really gone down hill since Amgen bought Otezla from Celgene. I have asked half a dozen providers now and they all say they don’t let their Otezla reps in anymore. What will that mean for this role? Are the territories massive now? Is it a mostly virtual role? To be honest it sounds like maybe I won’t have to work much, which is honestly an ideal situation.
 




It’s not a virtual role and you will be expected to see your HCP’s. If you want an all virtual role, go to Syneos. Otezla does well in the rheumatology space. But, there’s a ton of pressure to deliver results for the brand.
 




The good: Amgen has a nice 401k match and two holiday shut downs in addition to your vacation.

The bad: Otezla in rheumatology is Amgen, not Celgene so expect to play the activity game instead of selling. We still have RSDs who believe in Veeva Engage. DMs spend most of their days writing coaching guides. Otezla is a niche product in rheumatology. Most of it's sales come from dermatology.
 








Otezla is a phenomenal product that has potential to be extremely impactful. In your territory it is most likely that it’s being promoted by Enbrel reps, that’s why they aren’t allowed in offices. Enbrel reps are notorious for check the box activity and not providing value, this is why providers dislike them. Amgen has plenty of resources, most enbrel reps don’t have a clue how to use them
 




I sell otezla in Rheum, and I have a small territory with a nice team. Some docs love it, but most have moved on to new therapies. I am very happy here and am just hoping to be a part of the new humira bio-sim launch to add to my resume.
 




Really depends who you work for and where. West coast region leaders are mostly fake and conniving. Starts with the RSD. She has a stick up her ass and if she doesn't like you, she's a bitch. She brought in a DM team mostly from her inner circle so they are an extension of her. Keep your head down and plug away.
 




I was Celgene before and got stuck over here with the buyout. My territory is so small, I could see all my docs in 2 days. Instead I stretch it to 2 weeks and enter calls on every living soul at each location at the direction of our leadership. We are too fat. On the other hand, Amgen has a wonderful 401k match and we really reward people for being woke. The more you go after the white patriarchy, the better your review. Bonus points for saying woke things on Yammer and for including your pronouns in your email.
 








It’s not that bad, but it is an uphill battle despite being a multi-billion dollar product. Most providers aren’t as happy with the product, resources, or reps since the transition from Celgene to Amgen. Amgen provides little to no value and otezla was always a sugar pill, so you gotta sell it. Nobody in Pharma knows how to sell anymore
 




anonymous said:
It’s not that bad, but it is an uphill battle despite being a multi-billion dollar product. Most providers aren’t as happy with the product, resources, or reps since the transition from Celgene to Amgen. Amgen provides little to no value and otezla was always a sugar pill, so you gotta sell it. Nobody in Pharma knows how to sell anymore
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sugar pill? Are you crazy? Obviously you have no idea
 




Do managers ride with you in bone health.. like conduct field rige alongs on speciality reps. and do they currently have to sample prolia or any of the bone health products.
do they test over traning materials
 
































anonymous said:
Really depends who you work for and where. West coast region leaders are mostly fake and conniving. Starts with the RSD. She has a stick up her ass and if she doesn't like you, she's a bitch. She brought in a DM team mostly from her inner circle so they are an extension of her. Keep your head down and plug away.
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No lie here. Met this lady not too long ago. AB is definitely A B*$#%
 




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