I know this is relatively soon to ask that question, knowing that you just started the launch and it may take 3 to 4 months before patients get the 1st infusion. Esimates will be fine also. Regards
Reps, how many patients are on K currently?
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This is a sore subject, just use your imagination. I am hoping to get a bonus check, how much will it be, well not enough and certainly not what was used to lure me into this place, but the turnover will start soon, already has in Buffalo area, I hear a few reports in the mid west are going back to their previous company as well. Smart move for them. It will be last man standing, turn off the lights on the way out.....
It is hilarious how much extra time some kids have to post whatever. Buffalo
Hey kid stay away from your mom's ipad and go wear the princess dress so you could do better job playing pretend princess than a pretend Savient rep.
AGREE. I have the same mission. In this business it is never enough. Even though I did three times better than my personal goal last week, I still think I should be able to do better. The rheumatologists are eager to hear about the drug, cost is little turn off for them, but when they take there time to understand the benefits, most of my docs can not wait to complete the admin work to get the patients in infusion center. One doc is even trying to get Krystexxa to two of his patients that did not try the high dose allopurinol yet. I told him that plan will most likely denied it, but he is fighting currently. Nice RHE to have.
Not all of them are nice. This one doc does not want to hear anything about the drug. He claims he knows everything and not interested to spend even 15 minutes with me. It is my job to compel this docs and find right patient types for this medicine. I have other options (some are little more challenging than others) to help them understand the need for this drug. I am sure eventually one of his patients will bring it up to his attention, and I like to hear his response then.
Dude, go tell your fictional sales stories somewhere else. Did you read this out of a manual? Nothing close to reality! You have never worked a day in this field or company, the canned story you just told is fucking hilarious. Why are people so desperate with this drug. What is with you weirdos? Nobody here is going to tell a doctor that insurance is going to "deny" coverage, that is sales suicide. We all have bonus checks we were promised and if they do not come, this will be a mass exodus.
Puke. You are a puke. 15 minutes? You are a joke. Try 15 seconds. Who are you? "it is my job to compel"? Get the fuck out of town. "cost is of little turn off" "eager to complete the paper work"???? Holy shit are you fucked!!! Get off our board!!!!
Yes too soon for that. I thought we would do 7-8k this year, but most I think we will get is 2500 patients by EOY. This is not an ice cream shop. Training infusion centers, educating doctors and selling $2300 speciality buy and bill drug will take some time.
Come on, it's a specialty orphan drug its not the launch of lipitor. how can anyone expect rapid traction and uptake in 6 weeks? job 1 is to get the rhu's and infusion centers educated. that takes some time.
ROFLMAO, clearly this post about the greatness of Krystexxa and the magical access that is parting like the red sea when we walk into an office must have been an attempt at satire or sarcasm. Always funny to see someone post who does not work for the company or the industry. My fav was the "cost is not a turnoff" crap what a shitfuck assclown this guy is. Listen assface we are just trying to get through our territories a few times and that is no easy task with the size of our geography's at this point shit most of us have not even seen or spoke to our top deciles yet or have had little interaction, certainly not a face to face
. We are on lunch books for August and September, you fucking dud, you don't walk into an office or clinic and expect to see anyone without a lunch or breakfast an a lot of offices and NO hospitals do lunches anymore or limit your lunch to 1x per quarter and the wait list is on average 3-6 months after first visit. So your crap and bullshit about "compelling" sales messages is fucking stupid as hell.
Sure we can do in-services with some clinics but ed. fat nurses when the doctor is not there is counter productive we can educate till our balls fall off if the doctor does not buy into this black magic then it does not matter how many infusion labs are "set up" like you claim. Fucking gonad. The doc's i have spoke to all want to know about the 3 patients out of 6 that croaked while on Krystexxa and they roll their eyes like we are used car salesmen with the 2300 bucks per pop and the non responder data is weak as dick!
Bull! If you really worked for Savient you would know that there were complete responses of tophi among those "non responders."
Oh I work here alright, and try repeating that exact same thing to any Rhuemy and see where that gets you..dumb shit! Yes some of us who truly work for Savient do post on OUR board. Believe it or not, piss for brains!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
Which part of post #10 are you confused about they both sound rihgt to me as a current rep I would know. Could not have said it better myself. We all feel the pain brotha!
You're a fraud. If you really were a current rep, you would know.
Thanks Derek! If you actually got off the phone you might learn a few things, like yes cost is a issue, yes access is a issue, and oh by the way the docs are trying to make a living and are not "eager to complete the paper work". Get off your damn phone and help us get some managed care coverage! WORK!
Too early to estimate. It takes time to train RHU, infusion centers, VA hospitals, etc. The important part is that few of my practices are starting to get paid. Most RHUs do not want to take too much risk at this stage, so they start small with few patients and wait to see when they will get their checks. In my previous experience, sometimes it would take 6 to 9 months before getting paid. I hear that the infusions are going well and many happy patients.
I do not have one practice that has got "paid" a few of their most difficult patients came in for the infusion- doc sent them to hospital, and hospital said they are not going to pull in K or offer it as it is not on formulary then the pat went back to doctor and now we are at square one. I hear similar from other reps, not having hospitals on board is a BiG problem. I cannot image how many pat. have lost out of trying a new option due to insurance problems and tier coverage at the hospital networks. just staggering.
Is it still too soon to ask the same question? Do you think you may have 300 patients on Ks currently? Any feedbacks about VA hospitals?