good place to start in medical sales, very old products that are tough to sell, company put all of the worst products in one division and called it Pat Care, manufacturing is a complete joke and is having terrible time making quality products ( but that can be said of my ES division and all the other divisions of Conmed as well), but with all that said still a great place to start in medical sales. Many very good reps have been hired, spent several years with Pat Care and went on to join Bard, Medtronic, JnJ, Covidien, etc.