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Read the wyss email from yesterday. "Reasonable expectation is that we will need to make changes including some reductions before diovan's loss of exclusivity" did anyone read this? this email is what reps. Should be concerned with not the 2000 announced yesterday. It's coming people brace yourself
 






Anonymous said:
Read the wyss email from yesterday. "Reasonable expectation is that we will need to make changes including some reductions before diovan's loss of exclusivity" did anyone read this? this email is what reps. Should be concerned with not the 2000 announced yesterday. It's coming people brace yourself
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Did you need an email letting you know that when $7b in sales are gone in Sept. there will be reductions?
 












Anonymous said:
Read the wyss email from yesterday. "Reasonable expectation is that we will need to make changes including some reductions before diovan's loss of exclusivity" did anyone read this? this email is what reps. Should be concerned with not the 2000 announced yesterday. It's coming people brace yourself
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They should start by letting go of anyone that has sold Diovan as a P1 for 5 or more years. These people have never had to actually sell...just drop samples, pay speakers, and make for money than anyone else. I've had Tekturna since the beginning and can sell circles around any of the long time Diovan reps in my territory...any they know it!
 






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They should start by letting go of anyone that has sold Diovan as a P1 for 5 or more years. These people have never had to actually sell...just drop samples, pay speakers, and make for money than anyone else. I've had Tekturna since the beginning and can sell circles around any of the long time Diovan reps in my territory...any they know it!
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You are awesome, nice job!
 






Mr./Ms. Tekturna - aka awesome sales rep

I was here when Diovan was launched. Those of us who launched it and sold it before your ass came to town was in the same boat as you are now with Tekturna. Cozaar and then Diovan were the FIRST ARBs on the market...we had to teach docs how an ARB can be more beneficial than an ACE. This was BEFORE Ace's went generic. As for paying docs, etc... EVERYONE did it so it was an equal playing field, just like today is an equal playing field that you can't do anything for docs.

Get off your almighty high horse thinking you are doing so much! If you are such a great sales rep, then why are Tekturna sales tanking? Tekamlo not being used or Amturnide? The climate has changed for all of us with cheaper generic alternatives, economy, pharma guidelines, etc...

Sales is all about connecting with your customer, building trust, creating a relationship and selling thru that relationship....Novartis, or pharma for that matter, does not allow us to do that, Hence we are not REAL sales people but information / managed care updaters!

I would be happy to take a severance package and leave this place, perhaps its the kick in the ass some of us truly need; however, all those years of making good dough on Diovan doesn't allow that! Damned if you leave, Damned if you don't!
 






Well stated....

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Mr./Ms. Tekturna - aka awesome sales rep

I was here when Diovan was launched. Those of us who launched it and sold it before your ass came to town was in the same boat as you are now with Tekturna. Cozaar and then Diovan were the FIRST ARBs on the market...we had to teach docs how an ARB can be more beneficial than an ACE. This was BEFORE Ace's went generic. As for paying docs, etc... EVERYONE did it so it was an equal playing field, just like today is an equal playing field that you can't do anything for docs.

Get off your almighty high horse thinking you are doing so much! If you are such a great sales rep, then why are Tekturna sales tanking? Tekamlo not being used or Amturnide? The climate has changed for all of us with cheaper generic alternatives, economy, pharma guidelines, etc...

Sales is all about connecting with your customer, building trust, creating a relationship and selling thru that relationship....Novartis, or pharma for that matter, does not allow us to do that, Hence we are not REAL sales people but information / managed care updaters!

I would be happy to take a severance package and leave this place, perhaps its the kick in the ass some of us truly need; however, all those years of making good dough on Diovan doesn't allow that! Damned if you leave, Damned if you don't!
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Anonymous said:
They should start by letting go of anyone that has sold Diovan as a P1 for 5 or more years. These people have never had to actually sell...just drop samples, pay speakers, and make for money than anyone else. I've had Tekturna since the beginning and can sell circles around any of the long time Diovan reps in my territory...any they know it!
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Bwahaha! Diovan reps have had a product that in reality is not very diff from it's competitors. Therefor it is up to the rep to create a diff and sell the hell out of it. Diovan has paid the bills around here for years while Tekturkey had pulled us down. What a shit drug. Good luck with that though
 






Diovan not different from it's competition?

Im not a labotimized robot drug rep; however, it's the only ARB that has CHF & Post MI indications. Whether u want to beleive it or not, that is a strong statement to some docs. By having that data it has allowed Diovan to have great managed care coverage. We all know that managed care makes or breaks us - currently it kills us with generic alternatives that do the job; however,

good reductions -
good data -
good coverage -

all this equals to a good drug that benefits patients, hence, benefits those selling it!

Tekturna is a novel/niche therapy for HTN diabetics....it will not be a blockbuster and it NEEDS to be added to something to see a significant BP reduction.

If the data coming proves to have a reduction in albuminuria & proteinuria then it will have a good run, and thus have a better shot at tier 2 coverage w/ no step edit or prior. authorization.
 






Shouldn't it be called Primary Scare? Pod mates chasing their tails...all this wringing of hands and worrying about what's to come? It is what it is, your company was never loyal to you, you should never be loyal to your company. Im on the outside of this mess looking in. 2 reps walked in the office today dressed as the Mario Brothers........what happened to basic dignity and class? I am never talked WITH anymore, Im talked AT. Even your research people are scared....and becoming scarce. The representatives I recall from years ago, walked with purpose, knew their disease state, product and market and I only met a manager at education programs. I guess because of all the loose balls in the pinball machine that is your company, you have to have handlers/wranglers for them? We used to have ONE rep that handled our office, nearly 15 years in and you dropped her and left us with the Mario Brothers? "Tekturna is the NEW Diovan." Thanks Brothers....
 






Anonymous said:
They should start by letting go of anyone that has sold Diovan as a P1 for 5 or more years. These people have never had to actually sell...just drop samples, pay speakers, and make for money than anyone else. I've had Tekturna since the beginning and can sell circles around any of the long time Diovan reps in my territory...any they know it!
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tekturkey reps suck ass that's why the drug is a stagnant dog, they can't even bribe the doctors properly , well they bribe them but just don't get prescriptions , that's how bad tekturd reps suck
Terturd reps are probably the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked
 






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tekturkey reps suck ass that's why the drug is a stagnant dog, they can't even bribe the doctors properly , well they bribe them but just don't get prescriptions , that's how bad tekturd reps suck
Terturd reps are probably the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked
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Let's see...you can't spell, punctuate or even write a decent insult. But I'm sure you're a fantastic rep...
 






Anonymous said:
tekturkey reps suck ass that's why the drug is a stagnant dog, they can't even bribe the doctors properly , well they bribe them but just don't get prescriptions , that's how bad tekturd reps suck
Terturd reps are probably the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked
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I am still laughing at this "they can't even bribe the doctors properly"
 






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