Pfizer to work with Boston Hospitals to speed R&D; Reps still have no access!

[Anonymous]

strange bedfellows.

Pfizer Inc. (PFE) will spend about $100 million over the next five years on a collaborative effort with several Boston-area medical institutions aimed at more efficiently turning early stage research into potential drug candidates.

The New York-based drug giant is putting the headquarters of its "Centers for Therapeutic Innovation" in Boston in an effort to tap one of the nation's hotbeds for medical research. It is teaming with Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, Harvard University and six other local institutions.

 

[Anonymous]

Ditto for NY and San Fran

 

[Anonymous]

Oh little tumbleweed, please understand that the elitists running Pfizer USA do not respect the sales reps and instead see them now as only expense drivers and liabilities. They also think that by putting the research with these haters of Pharma that they will then welcome Pfizer into the inner circle and then somehow serendipitiously use our products without the need to pay a sales rep for "pull through". Woe is to them when they come to understand that the game will not be played that way, and giving the ship over to the enemy is no way to negotiate a win/win. It's too bad, there are plenty of friendly customers out there willing to play win/win, but elitists are not about the business, they are about their own stature and trying to make a name for themselves and gaining entry into elitist circles where theories are produced but business go to die for the customer and those actually talking to the customers are not listened to because the elitists listen to geeks who interpret data incorrectly for they lack the crucial component of what is happening in the arena. Arrogance and self agrandizement always precede the fall. Just look at our last two CEOs. So will the certain high level Business Unit managers (just can't call them leaders) fall before the company takes a major hit? In the words of Asia, "only time will tell."

 

[Anonymous]

Oh little tumbleweed, please understand that the elitists running Pfizer USA do not respect the sales reps and instead see them now as only expense drivers and liabilities. They also think that by putting the research with these haters of Pharma that they will then welcome Pfizer into the inner circle and then somehow serendipitiously use our products without the need to pay a sales rep for "pull through". Woe is to them when they come to understand that the game will not be played that way, and giving the ship over to the enemy is no way to negotiate a win/win. It's too bad, there are plenty of friendly customers out there willing to play win/win, but elitists are not about the business, they are about their own stature and trying to make a name for themselves and gaining entry into elitist circles where theories are produced but business go to die for the customer and those actually talking to the customers are not listened to because the elitists listen to geeks who interpret data incorrectly for they lack the crucial component of what is happening in the arena. Arrogance and self agrandizement always precede the fall. Just look at our last two CEOs. So will the certain high level Business Unit managers (just can't call them leaders) fall before the company takes a major hit? In the words of Asia, "only time will tell."

Huh?

 

[Anonymous]

Oh great! R&D is tired of sitting on their asses in our labs. Now they want to go to Boston and sit on their asses there! Sort of an ass-sitting field trip.

 

[Anonymous]

Oh little tumbleweed, please understand that the elitists running Pfizer USA do not respect the sales reps and instead see them now as only expense drivers and liabilities. They also think that by putting the research with these haters of Pharma that they will then welcome Pfizer into the inner circle and then somehow serendipitiously use our products without the need to pay a sales rep for "pull through". Woe is to them when they come to understand that the game will not be played that way, and giving the ship over to the enemy is no way to negotiate a win/win. It's too bad, there are plenty of friendly customers out there willing to play win/win, but elitists are not about the business, they are about their own stature and trying to make a name for themselves and gaining entry into elitist circles where theories are produced but business go to die for the customer and those actually talking to the customers are not listened to because the elitists listen to geeks who interpret data incorrectly for they lack the crucial component of what is happening in the arena. Arrogance and self agrandizement always precede the fall. Just look at our last two CEOs. So will the certain high level Business Unit managers (just can't call them leaders) fall before the company takes a major hit? In the words of Asia, "only time will tell."

You're leavin' now, its in your eyes......

 

[Anonymous]

your insincerity....


That's the right line for leadership here; selfish and self-centered neanderthals.

 

[Anonymous]

Oh little tumbleweed, please understand that the elitists running Pfizer USA do not respect the sales reps and instead see them now as only expense drivers and liabilities. They also think that by putting the research with these haters of Pharma that they will then welcome Pfizer into the inner circle and then somehow serendipitiously use our products without the need to pay a sales rep for "pull through". Woe is to them when they come to understand that the game will not be played that way, and giving the ship over to the enemy is no way to negotiate a win/win. It's too bad, there are plenty of friendly customers out there willing to play win/win, but elitists are not about the business, they are about their own stature and trying to make a name for themselves and gaining entry into elitist circles where theories are produced but business go to die for the customer and those actually talking to the customers are not listened to because the elitists listen to geeks who interpret data incorrectly for they lack the crucial component of what is happening in the arena. Arrogance and self agrandizement always precede the fall. Just look at our last two CEOs. So will the certain high level Business Unit managers (just can't call them leaders) fall before the company takes a major hit? In the words of Asia, "only time will tell."

I want to smoke some of what you're on.

 

[Anonymous]

your insincerity....


That's the right line for leadership here; selfish and self-centered neanderthals.

You'd be the same way if you were in a leadership role, especially a higher up one. Fact is people need a job and a paycheck and at Pfizer the best way to secure that is to kiss ass, cover your ass and do what you're told. Is it a good thing? Of course not, but don't act like you'd be up there rattling the cage when you're being paid $200-$300K per year. You wouldn't.

The only other option is to leave corp america and start your own thing. It's nota risk everyone is willing to take.

 

[Anonymous]

You'd be the same way if you were in a leadership role, especially a higher up one. Fact is people need a job and a paycheck and at Pfizer the best way to secure that is to kiss ass, cover your ass and do what you're told. Is it a good thing? Of course not, but don't act like you'd be up there rattling the cage when you're being paid $200-$300K per year. You wouldn't.

The only other option is to leave corp america and start your own thing. It's nota risk everyone is willing to take.

They don't have the balls, strength or intelligence to start their own thing. The same cowardice and ass-kissing characteristics that have allowed them to survive as drone yes-men at Pfizer would crush them in the real world. Sad but true.

 

[Anonymous]

I want to smoke some of what you're on.

meth. METH!

 

[Anonymous]

Oh little tumbleweed, please understand that the elitists running Pfizer USA do not respect the sales reps and instead see them now as only expense drivers and liabilities. They also think that by putting the research with these haters of Pharma that they will then welcome Pfizer into the inner circle and then somehow serendipitiously use our products without the need to pay a sales rep for "pull through". Woe is to them when they come to understand that the game will not be played that way, and giving the ship over to the enemy is no way to negotiate a win/win. It's too bad, there are plenty of friendly customers out there willing to play win/win, but elitists are not about the business, they are about their own stature and trying to make a name for themselves and gaining entry into elitist circles where theories are produced but business go to die for the customer and those actually talking to the customers are not listened to because the elitists listen to geeks who interpret data incorrectly for they lack the crucial component of what is happening in the arena. Arrogance and self agrandizement always precede the fall. Just look at our last two CEOs. So will the certain high level Business Unit managers (just can't call them leaders) fall before the company takes a major hit? In the words of Asia, "only time will tell."

You are a quite true in what you write. I have worked at a leadership level both in the field and in the HO. The disregard for reps and for rank and file community doctors is startling in the high circles of the pharma. They are so impressed by the academic titles of certain KOLs whether these guys know anything or not. I will be waiting patiently until some day the verdict will be out that this new strategy of indescriminately giving huge grants to the Harvards and Stanfords of the world would have failed. These guys despise pharma and only see pharma as good for cash cow. If PFE thinks its own scientists were unproductive and wasteful, wait til they find out how little the academic elitist club can do. But the elitist Medical and Clin Dev leaders don't care because they are not held accountable for revenues anyway. And the decline continues...

 

[Anonymous]

They don't have the balls, strength or intelligence to start their own thing. The same cowardice and ass-kissing characteristics that have allowed them to survive as drone yes-men at Pfizer would crush them in the real world. Sad but true.

Nothing is sadder than watching a 45-50 year old former DM or RM stay unemployed as they try (in vain) to get another Pharma job. Face it, there are virtually no transferrable skills for any other corporate leadership position....which is why even the few former DMs and RMs that leave the industry remain employed for more than a couple of years. Riding around with reps giving 50 second marketing message about a product that's been used for 14 years HARDLY qualifies one to do anything else that pays over $100K a year.

 

[Anonymous]

Nothing is sadder than watching a 45-50 year old former DM or RM stay unemployed as they try (in vain) to get another Pharma job. Face it, there are virtually no transferrable skills for any other corporate leadership position....which is why even the few former DMs and RMs that leave the industry remain employed for more than a couple of years. Riding around with reps giving 50 second marketing message about a product that's been used for 14 years HARDLY qualifies one to do anything else that pays over $100K a year.

Quite the contrary. The former DMs that I know in that age group are doing extremely well. Some are in pharma and some are not. A winner's a winner no matter where you put them. And a loser, like you is always giving air time to bullshit because you never had the honor to know any of the great ones.

 

[Anonymous]

amen brother