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On contracts set to end before 2012:when are you expecting to hear whether your contract is ending or renewed? Any word on if any existing contract is picking up more Pfizer products?
 






I worked with my Pfizer DBM yesterday, a real straight-shooter.

Her view based on the direction given to her for alignment of her own team, P4 is over the end of Q3.

The baited promise of contract extension (for the new generics model) is at best a limited exercise with only a few reps needed, (perhaps one per district). As for her district, she said she already has one of her Pfizer reps targeted for the position. (She said it's either that or unemployment for that rep.)

I countered with the well thought-out and astute, "But wait ... what about ... that's not what we were told."

To which she said nothing, just smiled and shrugged.

Then I says, "They lied to us? ... Naugh ...
 






not sure what your DBM was getting at. We were told that most of the P4 reps would be going to the new business unit Established Products. A few P4s would be left in the Primary Care districts. Some DBMs were given the option of holding onto the P4 reps til 12/31 but most are sending the P4 to the new unit 10/1.

The DBMs have a lot of issues ahead of them in Q3. They have King reps that have nothing to do and King managers who are most likely gone in the near future. The bag realignments and subsequent training that will have to be finished by 10/1 meanwhile realigning the current A and B reps. Frankly, I think we are the least of their worries.

Look up Established Products on Pfizer.com. It has been around about 3 years everywhere but the US. The unit is doing well in Europe and imagine how it will do here with the managed care strangle hold on anything but tier one drugs.
 






es over said:
I worked with my Pfizer DBM yesterday, a real straight-shooter.

Her view based on the direction given to her for alignment of her own team, P4 is over the end of Q3.

The baited promise of contract extension (for the new generics model) is at best a limited exercise with only a few reps needed, (perhaps one per district). As for her district, she said she already has one of her Pfizer reps targeted for the position. (She said it's either that or unemployment for that rep.)

I countered with the well thought-out and astute, "But wait ... what about ... that's not what we were told."

To which she said nothing, just smiled and shrugged.

Then I says, "They lied to us? ... Naugh ...
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I have started wondering the same thing. Why have they put off the supposed town hall meeting with more information for us that we were going to have? Why keep the B bag and get rid of all of the A bag when in Q4 we are so they say, selling Lipitor? They wanted 1 more quarter out of us selling B bag products but it could be true that they don't want us to know that is all they want out of us. How else to do that then to give us false hope to keep us motivated. This really could be the case. Anyone else think this is true?
 






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I have started wondering the same thing. Why have they put off the supposed town hall meeting with more information for us that we were going to have? Why keep the B bag and get rid of all of the A bag when in Q4 we are so they say, selling Lipitor? They wanted 1 more quarter out of us selling B bag products but it could be true that they don't want us to know that is all they want out of us. How else to do that then to give us false hope to keep us motivated. This really could be the case. Anyone else think this is true?
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I've wondered about this Lipitor too. But the Pfizer B Bag people I work with think the A people will keep Lipitor for at least 6 months past LOE. But still why lay off so many A P4 reps when we might get Lipitor next year??
 






es over said:
I worked with my Pfizer DBM yesterday, a real straight-shooter.

Her view based on the direction given to her for alignment of her own team, P4 is over the end of Q3.

The baited promise of contract extension (for the new generics model) is at best a limited exercise with only a few reps needed, (perhaps one per district). As for her district, she said she already has one of her Pfizer reps targeted for the position. (She said it's either that or unemployment for that rep.)

I countered with the well thought-out and astute, "But wait ... what about ... that's not what we were told."

To which she said nothing, just smiled and shrugged.

Then I says, "They lied to us? ... Naugh ...
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Your PFizer DM either doesn't know that facts or is bullshitting you.

P4 will be around long after the 3rd quarter - Don't believe anything a Pfizer DM or rep tells you right now - They are all running around hoping their jobs don't get cut and rumors are flying.

The above post is a prime example of a rumor that has no basis is reality except in the DM's confused mind.
 






Anonymous said:
Your PFizer DM either doesn't know that facts or is bullshitting you.

P4 will be around long after the 3rd quarter - Don't believe anything a Pfizer DM or rep tells you right now - They are all running around hoping their jobs don't get cut and rumors are flying.

The above post is a prime example of a rumor that has no basis is reality except in the DM's confused mind.
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Then is’t a matter of empowerment for the local DBM to define the structure of their overall team while differing the whiny wanta-bees of P4 to big brother as the bad guy. Perhaps it is their responsibility to call the ball, (within a set of business paramaters).

For example, in my district, all of the A-Bag team was let go. Only the B-Bag remained. I was supprised because my RFC and I don’t get along ... at all. So when the shake-down was about to happen I figured I was toast. On the afternoon I worked with my Pfizer DBM, she turned to me just befor parting and said with clear eye contact, “Don’t worry, I said you’ll be fine.”

That would explain the divergent comand and controll decissions on multipal fronts through out the nation. Cuz like I said above, My DBM’s not a bad guy ... just consistantly correct with the orical thing.

I’m the above poster “es over”,

... so for me, si.

For you ... maybe perhaps not so mucho.
 






es over said:
Then is’t a matter of empowerment for the local DBM to define the structure of their overall team while differing the whiny wanta-bees of P4 to big brother as the bad guy. Perhaps it is their responsibility to call the ball, (within a set of business paramaters).

For example, in my district, all of the A-Bag team was let go. Only the B-Bag remained. I was supprised because my RFC and I don’t get along ... at all. So when the shake-down was about to happen I figured I was toast. On the afternoon I worked with my Pfizer DBM, she turned to me just befor parting and said with clear eye contact, “Don’t worry, I said you’ll be fine.”

That would explain the divergent comand and controll decissions on multipal fronts through out the nation. Cuz like I said above, My DBM’s not a bad guy ... just consistantly correct with the orical thing.

I’m the above poster “es over”,

... so for me, si.

For you ... maybe perhaps not so mucho.
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You are very confused and your post really doesn't make all that much sense.

Facts are: Big lay-offs are in line for many Pfizer reps in mid August.
P4 is more than fine and will not be eliminated Q3.

Whatever you are being told or making up jsut isn't the truth.
 






Anonymous said:
Your PFizer DM either doesn't know that facts or is bullshitting you.

P4 will be around long after the 3rd quarter - Don't believe anything a Pfizer DM or rep tells you right now - They are all running around hoping their jobs don't get cut and rumors are flying.

The above post is a prime example of a rumor that has no basis is reality except in the DM's confused mind.
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Hmm... Were these the same people who told bag A reps they'd be getting Pristiq, etc and then A side got let go?

Positive note is good, though.
 






Anonymous said:
Hmm... Were these the same people who told bag A reps they'd be getting Pristiq, etc and then A side got let go?

Positive note is good, though.
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You are a very confused person.

P4 is safe well into next year and perhaps even beyond.


Pfizer reps face massive cuts in mid August.

Put the bottle down and try to sober up before you post anymore nonsense.
 






Both my DBM & RFC seem to think we have gone through our cuts for the year. Fourth quarter - October we start selling generics. At this point, I feel more secure in having a job come January than my Pfizer counterparts do. I am only guessing at this, but I think Pfizer wanted us selling generics because if the unit is sold, it would have less effect on its sales organization. Keep in mind, Pfizer just bought a small Japanese company with pain drugs. The sale should go through end of this year.
 






Anonymous said:
You are very confused and your post really doesn't make all that much sense.

Facts are: Big lay-offs are in line for many Pfizer reps in mid August.
P4 is more than fine and will not be eliminated Q3.

Whatever you are being told or making up jsut isn't the truth.
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Really? You couldn’t figure it out? I was stunned by your reply ... crushed really.

So I ran some copies of the message (above #7) and ran a little test of my own among your a peers.

One by one, I gave them a copy to read. One by one, I failed to pass muster.

It gets worse ... Not only did I have to pay them, only two took the time to tear it apart ... most just put the page down. (But there was that one who balled it up just before stuffing it into his mouth.)

Anyway ... live and learn.

If I’d just left well enough alone before I bought all those damn bananas.




PS: I figured it was my use of the term “oracle”, that tripped you up.

Oracle: A person or place used to prophetically reveal something ... which in your case would be arrogance and stupidity.
 


















es over said:
Really? You couldn’t figure it out? I was stunned by your reply ... crushed really.

So I ran some copies of the message (above #7) and ran a little test of my own among your a peers.

One by one, I gave them a copy to read. One by one, I failed to pass muster.

It gets worse ... Not only did I have to pay them, only two took the time to tear it apart ... most just put the page down. (But there was that one who balled it up just before stuffing it into his mouth.)

Anyway ... live and learn.

If I’d just left well enough alone before I bought all those damn bananas.




PS: I figured it was my use of the term “oracle”, that tripped you up.

Oracle: A person or place used to prophetically reveal something ... which in your case would be arrogance and stupidity.
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I didn't realize that they let you have acess to computers in rehab.
 












es over said:
Dear Rehab,

That's it? ... That's all you got??

(Man, that's as lame as me saying you can't spell.)

-es over
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Dude, you are the one who is beyond lame coming here spewing your falsehoods and downright lies.

I'll tell you what - Let's revisit this thread in a few months and I am sure you will be eating your words, that is, if you have the balls to come back after you have been proven wrong in every sense of what you spill out.

Now, run along. Your act has worn thin and the more you post, the more you expose yourself as the Pfool you really are.
 






Generic intrusion will take the market in 2 weeks. You will be out of work in 1. Better figure something else out and quick. I dont mean that mean but that is reality. Anyone telling you different is full of shit. Pfizer reps selling Lipitor will be on the block at the end of the 3rd quarter. Of course they want to think different but they will think like that all the way to the unemployement line!!!!!!!!!!!! Pfizer reps are expendable like used car salesman. It has been a good run but it has been over since last month.
 












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