P4 Contract

[Anonymous]

What do you think the future is for this contract? Pfizer? Are there many reps being converted over to Pfizer full time?

 

[Anonymous]

I heard that no conversions take place except occasionally now. What you see is what you get.

 

[Anonymous]

Find other work, contract is a dead end.

ONLY do this job if you have no debt, have the lifestyle you always wanted, and you just need a job to pass time to get out of the house.

To do this in your "career" years is stupid.

I worked for Publicis and they didn't roll me over, and they rejected me a specialty job. All of this after good numbers and good reviews ( I was a Wave 1 rep with Pfizer and dealt with all that crap too, and still they didn't do anything for me).

I am not sour about it, but that is the truth, and they failed big time.

Companies should reward good employees, and Publicis didn't do that.

Stay away from them.

 

[Anonymous]

Find other work, contract is a dead end.

ONLY do this job if you have no debt, have the lifestyle you always wanted, and you just need a job to pass time to get out of the house.

To do this in your "career" years is stupid.

I worked for Publicis and they didn't roll me over, and they rejected me a specialty job. All of this after good numbers and good reviews ( I was a Wave 1 rep with Pfizer and dealt with all that crap too, and still they didn't do anything for me).

I am not sour about it, but that is the truth, and they failed big time.

Companies should reward good employees, and Publicis didn't do that.

Stay away from them.

HOW ABOUT THE EMAIL FROM MONTY, BASICALLY SAYING ABOUT THE RHEUMATOLOGY POSITIONS "BE HAPPY WITH WHAT YOU HAVE BECAUSE YOUR NEVER BEING ROLLED OVER YOUR ALWAYS GOING TO BE IN THIS CONTRACT AND GOING NOWHERE"

 

[Anonymous]

HOW ABOUT THE EMAIL FROM MONTY, BASICALLY SAYING ABOUT THE RHEUMATOLOGY POSITIONS "BE HAPPY WITH WHAT YOU HAVE BECAUSE YOUR NEVER BEING ROLLED OVER YOUR ALWAYS GOING TO BE IN THIS CONTRACT AND GOING NOWHERE"

Its a terrible enviornment.

I wish I never did it. It ruined my resume.

I was fortunate to get into a better situation by luck, and it took me almost a year to do it, as I just decided I was not going to go back to work for Publicis.

Here is the problem with Publicis and all pharma: ITS A JOB, AND NOT AN OPPORTUNITY.

 

[Anonymous]

To expand on what I mean about JOB v. OPPORTUNITY...

publicis and most pharma jobs do not develop their people. publicis is worse, because they don't even have a track for senior rep or manager, nothing.

worse, other companies don't take contract reps seriously, wrongly thinking that they are not good enough to find regular rep jobs (truth is these companies hire off of profiles, and not individual talent or manager recommendations; rather, it HR profiles that rule).

Anyway, if you don't have a college education and are not experienced, then a JOB is what you get for the most part. That goes with the territory of not having that education, a education that should give you an opportunity. I think Chris Rock has a skit about that, a job v. a career.

Opportunities are positions where you can develop your skills, get meaningful promotions, and make more money if you do the work.

Publicis (and almost all pharma) is just a JOB, it pays ok, but you will not grow. YOu are better off taking your education and experience and finding a different industry.

 

[Anonymous]

How big is this contract going to get? I heard it used to be up to 500. Are they going to expand to be that big again?

Whats the salary and info on this contract?