DS... well you can say what you will on that one. PN... not sure he is overpaid. We all know that the fellow's programs eventually payoff in time as the fellows become attendings. You can have your opinion, good or bad, or PN but it was and is the fellow's programs as well solid salesmanship in the trenches that built GDT to what it WAS. So, is PN overpaid? Maybe but it just might be worth it one day.