Oravig Speakers Bureau

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So let me get this straight. I have less than 24 working hours to pick a "speaker" from my territory and then less than 3 months (most of that being from Thanksgiving to Christmas) to schedule "speaker programs" with targets chosen from our BS list of physicians. It makes it a little hard to pick a "speaker" when pretty much no one from my territory has written Oravig and any of the physicians worth their time are too busy treating patients to take time and money away from their practice to give a talk on thrush. Oh, wait, maybe this is a way for home office to "pay off" a physician to increase their use of Oravig.

Last time I checked pharmaceutial reps were paid to sell the benefits of their drug and improve patient quality of life. Has anyone heard ANYONE in upper management EVER mention the "patient" in all of this? Of course not. Instead the direction is literally to not sell our drug to a physician unless they are a "target" because it will jack up future goals. So if I am calling on a group of 6 oncologists and my drug can improve the quality of life of one of their cancer patients I should just not tell them about it because my future quarterly paycheck and my weekly activity report is more imporant? For all the talk about being a "kind" person something doesn't add up. I'm not an idiot but there is a thing called "ethics" and this company seems to throw that out the window.

A real sales rep will sell the drug based on benefits to the patient. A used car salesman will go behind his physicians backs to get a pharmacist to "switch" prescriptions and call them in to the office. Yeah, your numbers may be temporarily inflated but it will catch up with you. What a joke.

And yes, the economy is bad but a good rep will always find a job elsewhere eventually. Not worth selling your soul to the Devil. The sad part is this COULD be a great company and there are a lot of great reps who are on board. Too bad upper management doesn't trust us to wipe our own asses.
 






interesting. PL & RP used to work at a company (Boron, LePore and Associates) that actually handled all of the speaker selection, setting up venues, handling all the logistics, inviting the doctors to the meetings, paying them, etc. I guess they don't remember their "roots" in this business and feel it is easier for us as reps to do it. Oh, I forgot, when PL left, RP ran it into the ground. My cousin used to work there and I got an ear full.
 






interesting. PL & RP used to work at a company (Boron, LePore and Associates) that actually handled all of the speaker selection, setting up venues, handling all the logistics, inviting the doctors to the meetings, paying them, etc. I guess they don't remember their "roots" in this business and feel it is easier for us as reps to do it. Oh, I forgot, when PL left, RP ran it into the ground. My cousin used to work there and I got an ear full.

That is why they have us doing it. They know all the logistics, tricks and how to do it. They know that it is not brain surgery to do. Why pay someone else to do this when we have "nothing else to do" and can do it in our "spare" time. I wonder if a "signature" from a restaurant would count???
 






So let me get this straight. I have less than 24 working hours to pick a "speaker" from my territory and then less than 3 months (most of that being from Thanksgiving to Christmas) to schedule "speaker programs" with targets chosen from our BS list of physicians. It makes it a little hard to pick a "speaker" when pretty much no one from my territory has written Oravig and any of the physicians worth their time are too busy treating patients to take time and money away from their practice to give a talk on thrush. Oh, wait, maybe this is a way for home office to "pay off" a physician to increase their use of Oravig.

Last time I checked pharmaceutial reps were paid to sell the benefits of their drug and improve patient quality of life. Has anyone heard ANYONE in upper management EVER mention the "patient" in all of this? Of course not. Instead the direction is literally to not sell our drug to a physician unless they are a "target" because it will jack up future goals. So if I am calling on a group of 6 oncologists and my drug can improve the quality of life of one of their cancer patients I should just not tell them about it because my future quarterly paycheck and my weekly activity report is more imporant? For all the talk about being a "kind" person something doesn't add up. I'm not an idiot but there is a thing called "ethics" and this company seems to throw that out the window.

A real sales rep will sell the drug based on benefits to the patient. A used car salesman will go behind his physicians backs to get a pharmacist to "switch" prescriptions and call them in to the office. Yeah, your numbers may be temporarily inflated but it will catch up with you. What a joke.

And yes, the economy is bad but a good rep will always find a job elsewhere eventually. Not worth selling your soul to the Devil. The sad part is this COULD be a great company and there are a lot of great reps who are on board. Too bad upper management doesn't trust us to wipe our own asses.

FUCK YOU
 






#7 Today, 10:36 AM
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#7 Today, 10:36 AM
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Re: will lly buy alks

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and a once a month injection for diabetes in phase 2 confirmed by partner amylin in conf call discussing exenatide



Quote:
Originally Posted by Anonymous
"Business Summary
Alkermes, Inc., an integrated biotechnology company, offers extended-release injectable, pulmonary, and oral products for the treatment of prevalent, chronic diseases, such as central nervous system disorders, addiction, and diabetes. It primarily develops, manufactures, and commercializes VIVITROL, an extended-release Medisorb formulation of naltrexone for the treatment of alcohol dependence, as well as for the treatment of opioid dependence. The company also manufactures RISPERDAL CONSTA, a formulation of risperidone for the treatment of schizophrenia and bipolar disorder. In addition, it is developing Exenatide once weekly for the treatment of type 2 diabetes; ALKS 33, an opioid modulator, which completed phase I randomized, double-blind, and placebo-controlled study for the treatment of addiction, pain, and other nervous system disorders; ALKS 29, an oral combination therapy for the treatment of alcohol dependence; ALKS 27, an inhaled trospium product that is in a phase IIa study for the treatment of chronic obstructive pulmonary disease; and ALKS 36, a co-formulation of an opioid analgesic and RDC-1036 for the treatment of pain. Alkermes, Inc. has collaborative arrangements with Janssen Pharmaceutica, Inc.; Cilag GmbH International; Amylin Pharmaceuticals, Inc.; and Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute. The company was founded in 1987 and is headquartered in Cambridge, Massachusetts." from yahoo
 






We are doing so many things that are illegal or so gray we should be ashamed of ourselves. Me included! My boss said to ask the top 5 potential docs to be my speaker so they could be paid. I needed a job, I have an ex wife and 4 kids. I need the pay andinsurance. Selling Megase ES we are guilty of rackateering AT THE LEAST. I can do no more wrong and am resigning in the AM. The FDA have questioned me and 1 other in my district.... bet you havent heard that.... ask around. I was too scared to stay. I told them everything I have ever been asked and may not be what they want but that was what I know. Crazy! This aint a company. You are a fireman with a 5 oclock deadline everyday. TRUE? Ask yourself? You are being watched everyday by agents in the field,( there are people that ask what you say to a doc) I have never heard of such until I was approached. The hammer will fall shortly. BETTER BE DOING THE RIGHT THING! I WAS NOT AT LIBERTY TO DISCUSS UNTIL YESTERDAY FROM PAR< WHO DIDNT DO SHIT TILL I MET WITH THEM! I had to pay my own attorney, No one from PAR showed up the first meeting. Oravig and all our products are on the radar because of the way we operate. NOW YOU ALL KNOW ME AND I DONT CARE! If I get indicted then I am covering my ass, since I did only what the company REQUIRED. I am a new 60 rep and cant believe the things that have gone on since I was hired! ARE YOU ON MEDICAD. If so GET ready.....trouble is coming. Home office no longer allows DM's or reps to be present and HOME OFFICE QUIT GOING ABOUT 3 MONTHS AGO TO ANY MEDICAD MEETINGS FOR FEAR OF BREAKING THE LAW OR SHOWING FDA HOW THEY HAVE OPERATED for so long. IF YOU ARE HONEST LEAVE AND LEAVE NOW. ASS COVERAGE.... ALL THIS I HAVE WRITTEN IS A LIE AND NOT TRUE!!!!!!!!! PEOPLE CAN SAY ANYTHING ON THIS SITE..... GOES TO SHOW!!!
 












We are doing so many things that are illegal or so gray we should be ashamed of ourselves. Me included! My boss said to ask the top 5 potential docs to be my speaker so they could be paid. I needed a job, I have an ex wife and 4 kids. I need the pay andinsurance. Selling Megase ES we are guilty of rackateering AT THE LEAST. I can do no more wrong and am resigning in the AM. The FDA have questioned me and 1 other in my district.... bet you havent heard that.... ask around. I was too scared to stay. I told them everything I have ever been asked and may not be what they want but that was what I know. Crazy! This aint a company. You are a fireman with a 5 oclock deadline everyday. TRUE? Ask yourself? You are being watched everyday by agents in the field,( there are people that ask what you say to a doc) I have never heard of such until I was approached. The hammer will fall shortly. BETTER BE DOING THE RIGHT THING! I WAS NOT AT LIBERTY TO DISCUSS UNTIL YESTERDAY FROM PAR< WHO DIDNT DO SHIT TILL I MET WITH THEM! I had to pay my own attorney, No one from PAR showed up the first meeting. Oravig and all our products are on the radar because of the way we operate. NOW YOU ALL KNOW ME AND I DONT CARE! If I get indicted then I am covering my ass, since I did only what the company REQUIRED. I am a new 60 rep and cant believe the things that have gone on since I was hired! ARE YOU ON MEDICAD. If so GET ready.....trouble is coming. Home office no longer allows DM's or reps to be present and HOME OFFICE QUIT GOING ABOUT 3 MONTHS AGO TO ANY MEDICAD MEETINGS FOR FEAR OF BREAKING THE LAW OR SHOWING FDA HOW THEY HAVE OPERATED for so long. IF YOU ARE HONEST LEAVE AND LEAVE NOW. ASS COVERAGE.... ALL THIS I HAVE WRITTEN IS A LIE AND NOT TRUE!!!!!!!!! PEOPLE CAN SAY ANYTHING ON THIS SITE..... GOES TO SHOW!!!



All this shows is that you would take time out of your day to actually write all of that to make a point. Get a life.