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Anonymous said:
...MRI-safe pacemaker. They even gave you a link to BIOTRONIK.com. Nice work.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/story/2013/01/30/defibrillator-mri.html
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Poor lady had to suffer over 2 years with a known/diagnosed brady rate that could have been resolved by a MDT REVO MRI device that has been in Europe for years. What a dumb ass physician sitting on his thumbs while a solution to restore QOA for a pt was right in front of his face. Oh yeah..Canada has Socialized Medicine....you ready America? Odds are you will die before you receive the readily available cure. This pt got lucky....could have passed out driving her car killing or injuring herself or someone else. This physician should be ashamed.
 






Uh, guys.

You may want to take a look at that article again. She got an ICD for SCA prevention due to myotonic dystrophy. That Revo you suggested is not gonna do much for her VT.

I know it's confusing. I get ICDs and pacemakers mixed all the time too.
 












"The big difference which makes it compatible with MRI are there are some subtle engineering changes in the design of both the defibrillator and the wires that attach to the defibrillator to make them less likely to interact with the magnets."

... LOL... do people really believe this BS? It's all about labelling! What about exclusion zones? So in theory it is MRI save... in reality it ain't with an exclusion zone from the scalp to the big toe.....
 






Anonymous said:
Poor lady had to suffer over 2 years with a known/diagnosed brady rate that could have been resolved by a MDT REVO MRI device that has been in Europe for years. What a dumb ass physician sitting on his thumbs while a solution to restore QOA for a pt was right in front of his face. Oh yeah..Canada has Socialized Medicine....you ready America? Odds are you will die before you receive the readily available cure. This pt got lucky....could have passed out driving her car killing or injuring herself or someone else. This physician should be ashamed.
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How bout this douche not only cant read the article and tell the difference b/w a pacer and defib BUT... Mdt REVO... What a moron... let's give the patient a MRI safe REVO with no EGMs or capture management (10 year old technology).

Or we could give her and EVIA with CLS, EGMs, Capture management, No charge to the patient Cellular Mobile Home Monitoring, the list goes on and on. That was approved well before REVO in Europe.
 






Anonymous said:
How bout this douche not only cant read the article and tell the difference b/w a pacer and defib BUT... Mdt REVO... What a moron... let's give the patient a MRI safe REVO with no EGMs or capture management (10 year old technology).

Or we could give her and EVIA with CLS, EGMs, Capture management, No charge to the patient Cellular Mobile Home Monitoring, the list goes on and on. That was approved well before REVO in Europe.
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There is charge to the patient in a higher device charge. Don't play dumb. Mobile Home monitoring costs more. Also no CLS allowed if you're trying to avoid v pacing. So go ahead give them heart failure too
 
























DB's - av search can go out to 450 with CLS on. Is that enough to minimize RV pacing? CLS can't be on in conjunction with ADI VP Suppression. PS..go sell more sicd's - we appreciate the revenue!
 












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Then how does the device update the AsVp and ApVp reference waveforms?

In fact, CLS requires some V pacing to do this...however, it may be 2-4% V pacing, which is very little even for the most ardent DAVID / INTRINSIC supporters.
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what a waste of time...stupid thread! This device won't see the U.S. in over 2 years so who cares. Still feel bad for the pt who lived with syncope for 2 years while waiting to get this device as the article clearly states and though REVO doesn't treat vt/vf it would at least give this pt a part of their life back and still get MRI's until this ICD became available of which this pt didn't no would have been avaible at all. Do you think the pt gives a shit about EGM's??? Statements like that prove was assholes you guys really are...you put more value on your sales jargon than you put on pt care. Until you change your focus, BIO will always be viewed as " Bottom Feeders".

This is a lame ass story about a lame ass doc who didn't offer all options to his pt's. Then it was followed up by a bunch of lame ass comments by BIO idiots.....do you see the common thread to this thread?
 






Anonymous said:
what a waste of time...stupid thread! This device won't see the U.S. in over 2 years so who cares. Still feel bad for the pt who lived with syncope for 2 years while waiting to get this device as the article clearly states and though REVO doesn't treat vt/vf it would at least give this pt a part of their life back and still get MRI's until this ICD became available of which this pt didn't no would have been avaible at all. Do you think the pt gives a shit about EGM's??? Statements like that prove was assholes you guys really are...you put more value on your sales jargon than you put on pt care. Until you change your focus, BIO will always be viewed as " Bottom Feeders".

This is a lame ass story about a lame ass doc who didn't offer all options to his pt's. Then it was followed up by a bunch of lame ass comments by BIO idiots.....do you see the common thread to this thread?
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First of all, IF this story is true it isn't the Bio rep's fault. If a narrow minded doc chooses to go this route how is it the rep's fault?

Secondly, You WILL see this device in the USA much sooner than you think.

Lastly, As for sales jargon vs. patient care..... MVP. Hey doc, doc this new algorithm falls right in line with DAVID. Don't worry about its pro-arrhythmic side effects.

Kool-aid is OK but you should really try a different flavor once in-awhile.
 






Anonymous said:
First of all, IF this story is true it isn't the Bio rep's fault. If a narrow minded doc chooses to go this route how is it the rep's fault?


Secondly, You WILL see this device in the USA much sooner than you think.

Lastly, As for sales jargon vs. patient care..... MVP. Hey doc, doc this new algorithm falls right in line with DAVID. Don't worry about its pro-arrhythmic side effects.

Kool-aid is OK but you should really try a different flavor once in-awhile.
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Been doing this long? When is the U.S. study? Add 2 years to the end date of the study and then you may launch it. So, again, 2 years minimum.
 






reference waveform does use Vpacing but I have CLS on all patients... Vpacing is less than 1% and does not register... I guess you dont use capture management then do ya you douche b/c of Vpacing.
 






How bout the moron talking about the DAVID trial.

Another MDT dumbass. Compares ICD patients to bradycardia patients. No where close to being apples to apples.

Trust me I dont think giving someone a LBBB is the right thing to do, but you can't quote the DAVID trial to back it up.
 






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How bout the moron talking about the DAVID trial.

Another MDT dumbass. Compares ICD patients to bradycardia patients. No where close to being apples to apples.

Trust me I dont think giving someone a LBBB is the right thing to do, but you can't quote the DAVID trial to back it up.
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Man, you gotta look at the "exclusion zones" for the devices that do have some form of foreign ( E.U.) approval for MRI use. t says MRI compatible under pre-defined circumstances ... you cannot scan the patient from neck to the navel !!! What vthe hell good is an MRI-device if you cannot scan 60% of the body ??
 






Anonymous said:
How bout this douche not only cant read the article and tell the difference b/w a pacer and defib BUT... Mdt REVO... What a moron... let's give the patient a MRI safe REVO with no EGMs or capture management (10 year old technology).

Or we could give her and EVIA with CLS, EGMs, Capture management, No charge to the patient Cellular Mobile Home Monitoring, the list goes on and on. That was approved well before REVO in Europe.
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You're an idiot. REVO has over 17 minutes of EGM storage for 55 episodes. Know what you're selling against. This makes you look stupid, again! The next generation of MDT's MRI conditional device will have over 23 minutes EGM storage for 100 episodes with Cap Mngmt. What do you have coming out over the next 2 years? Answer: "Nothing"
 






Anonymous said:
You're an idiot. REVO has over 17 minutes of EGM storage for 55 episodes. Know what you're selling against. This makes you look stupid, again! The next generation of MDT's MRI conditional device will have over 23 minutes EGM storage for 100 episodes with Cap Mngmt. What do you have coming out over the next 2 years? Answer: "Nothing"
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Explain the "Conditional" aspect of your MRI Conditional device.
 






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