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I have a great idea. While Metabolics is facing markets challenges. Instead of letting field sell and respond. Lets have 3 kpi lists. A spiff list. Then say call plan is the word of God. Spend two days doing CPA. Then change list. Then re enter kpi's in irep. Then have a meeting about it. Then have two conference calls. Then have district follow up calls. Then have reps do a business plan update to rms. then sometime after June deal with reality. Who's running this show. Promote me. Let the field sell. Good management knows when to manage and also knows how to get out of the way.
 












Anonymous said:
I have a great idea. While Metabolics is facing markets challenges. Instead of letting field sell and respond. Lets have 3 kpi lists. A spiff list. Then say call plan is the word of God. Spend two days doing CPA. Then change list. Then re enter kpi's in irep. Then have a meeting about it. Then have two conference calls. Then have district follow up calls. Then have reps do a business plan update to rms. then sometime after June deal with reality. Who's running this show. Promote me. Let the field sell. Good management knows when to manage and also knows how to get out of the way.
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Yes well said.

We all know this ship is going down very quickly. So they bombard the hell out of you with busy work, Conf calls, KPI bullshit, webinars, etc.

But, when you start to see people getting out at the top, you know the fits about to hit the shan!
 




Focus on P1. Oh don't. It does not matter. I mean but do but don't. Call plan is a guide. I mean call plan is the word of God. Reference to cardio care today on call is very telling. Yes. Cardio care was dead after year of aim high. Closing the franchise may be only way to rid Abbvie of bedissa Marlborough
 




ACCORD, FIELD and AIM-HIGH all added to the fun of selling cardio products. Cardio was a fun sales force to work with.

This is the end of all PC adventures for AbbVie. It is not profitable enough. Additionally, the salesperson in PC is not the person needed for the future pharma rep.

Time is winding down. People will keep guessing when, there will be no new product purchase to sell for PC.

In fact, it's the one year anniversary of the Cardio announcement. Kudos to those sales leaders for being transparent in their winding down of the business. I hope you have the same treatment. I felt treated with respect, but I already had a plan B in my back pocket.

Treat the next few months as a working job search. START NOW!
 




I didn't happen to notice what the quarterly drop of Androgel was vs. last years first quarter. Anybody?
Pretty sure it is continuing its lackluster performance. When is generic 1.0 coming out?
heard it could be next month. True?

Just ignore the man behind the curtain, the all powerful Oz will protect you. HAHAHAHAH..
 




Even with the generic the sales of Testosterone products will fall as long as the greedy Lawyers make claims about Testosterone causing stokes etc. This is sad as I know many men including myself who take this drug. Now doctors will be afraid to prescribe it even when it is appropriate to.
 




If you have hypogonadism, then sure, providers will write.

If you are talking about the majority of these scripts, written outside of hypogonadism, then it's a big NO.

The market is resizing to the disease state.
 




In other words.....if you need to get a normal, pulsating hard-on, go with the Viagras of the world.
Don't take a potentially harmful HORMONE without a damn good reason to incur unnecessary health risk.

Estimates have run as high as 85% of men on testosterone replacement are doing it solely for the ED benefit. That is basic ignorance and negligence on the doctors' part who are writing it for that purpose.
 




Anonymous said:
In other words.....if you need to get a normal, pulsating hard-on, go with the Viagras of the world.
Don't take a potentially harmful HORMONE without a damn good reason to incur unnecessary health risk.

Estimates have run as high as 85% of men on testosterone replacement are doing it solely for the ED benefit. That is basic ignorance and negligence on the doctors' part who are writing it for that purpose.
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What are you talking about? Its the sex!
 








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Oh yeah. We keep talking the jive, while stroke and MI rates go up on the poor limp bastards. I am getting real tired of this BS. Where is my severance??????

Hard to believe, but I think I am growing a conscience.
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Its not limp, just alittle too bendable. My doc refuses to write for any test replacement and stopped giving shots as well. Viagra and the rest do not work for me and its the same for a lot of my friends.
Many of my cronies' docs have stopped giving testosterone as well. What are we supposed to do? Shouldn't it be my decision as to whether I am willing to take the risk?
I hate that damn vacuum thing even more. Its feels like a granny with cotton mouth.
 




Anonymous said:
Its not limp, just alittle too bendable. My doc refuses to write for any test replacement and stopped giving shots as well. Viagra and the rest do not work for me and its the same for a lot of my friends.
Many of my cronies' docs have stopped giving testosterone as well. What are we supposed to do? Shouldn't it be my decision as to whether I am willing to take the risk?
I hate that damn vacuum thing even more. Its feels like a granny with cotton mouth.
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Hey idiot gramps. Do yourself a favor and skip the
testy treatment. It will probably prolong
your life by reducing heart attacks and strokes
You need to prioritize your life's goals and
max out your life expectancy. If you die
early from testosterone you will never even
get near that camel toe again.
 




Anonymous said:
Hey idiot gramps. Do yourself a favor and skip the
testy treatment. It will probably prolong
your life by reducing heart attacks and strokes
You need to prioritize your life's goals and
max out your life expectancy. If you die
early from testosterone you will never even
get near that camel toe again.
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What? Andro is a magical lotion that is treating a critical disease called Low T. It is a dreadful chronic condition that is absolutely devastating! You feel tired when you wake up, you get sick of boning the old bag after 30 years, feel depressed because of this and
just are in terrible shape.
But since Abbvie is only concerned about patients and not making money, they have developed this wonderful treatment for you. Just because you may suddenly get a crushing pain in your chest or experience numbness and paralysis over the left side of your face, not to worry. You are being saved from the devastation of LOW T!
We are always putting the suckers, oops I mean patients, health first.
 




Anonymous said:
What? Andro is a magical lotion that is treating a critical disease called Low T. It is a dreadful chronic condition that is absolutely devastating! You feel tired when you wake up, you get sick of boning the old bag after 30 years, feel depressed because of this and
just are in terrible shape.
But since Abbvie is only concerned about patients and not making money, they have developed this wonderful treatment for you. Just because you may suddenly get a crushing pain in your chest or experience numbness and paralysis over the left side of your face, not to worry. You are being saved from the devastation of LOW T!
We are always putting the suckers, oops I mean patients, health first.
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Props on sarcasm. And oh so very true. Low T is a result of normal aging. You screw with mother nature by artificially increasing hormones, you are taking a big gamble.
Remember HRT for women was all the rage UNTIL they discovered extra estrogen increased CV risk and cancer risk?
What makes anyone think that artificially the male hormone equivalent is any different?
Especially since the latest studies do point to an increased risk of CV, stroke and prostate cancer risk.
Just another money maker that as Steve Nissen of the Cleveland clinic calls "using human subjects as guinea pigs"
The more I work in this organization, the slimier I feel.
Get me the frickin severance pkg. This boat has sailed to long and now faces way too many headwinds to keep it afloat for much longer.
I do not like being pressured to spin the story regarding the risks of Androgel.
 








"The more I work in this organization, the slimier I feel.
Get me the frickin severance pkg. This boat has sailed to long and now faces way too many headwinds to keep it afloat for much longer.
I do not like being pressured to spin the story regarding the risks of Androgel."

agree with above, its hard to look in the mirror these days. Abbvie, you want to reduce headcount? offer the package CV got and let the reps who want to "self-identify" out. Many other companies do this, why doesn't Abbvie?
 












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