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I had no problem with Perry, thought he always put sales force first. Ryan is a good guy and I think he will do well in this position. Yes, he was with Pfizer, but if you have worked with him out in the field then you know he does NOT expect us to be robots.
 






























Glad reps liked him. Don't know him. Don't think he will make a difference. Doesn't have an impressive resume. Not going to help B&L succeed. I don't see a way for B&L to compete at this point to take share from the big boys. Hopefully he makes the quality of life for the reps left better. Hopefully he fires KK.
 
























The od reps don't really count-lowest class specimens in pharma-low iq, talked about how they couldn't believe they passed drug tests, and dressed like they got paid by the hour
 






Ray,
Now that you are director can we please get a review if the comp plan? Being that I've never worked with you, you still seem like a level headed guy. Valeant has a higher salary than us, their bonus structure is way more than ours. So many people wouldn't be leaving if we got a competitive salary. So many complain that they are not making near what they used to in bonus (even the old OD reps which lets face it are just glorified pc reps, lol) and the fact that many other companies offer higher salaries it's hard not to look....Do what's right and maybe people will stay.

P.s. can you get rid of KK or nudge her to leave with Perry? Thanks
 






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Ray,
Now that you are director can we please get a review if the comp plan? Being that I've never worked with you, you still seem like a level headed guy. Valeant has a higher salary than us, their bonus structure is way more than ours. So many people wouldn't be leaving if we got a competitive salary. So many complain that they are not making near what they used to in bonus (even the old OD reps which lets face it are just glorified pc reps, lol) and the fact that many other companies offer higher salaries it's hard not to look....Do what's right and maybe people will stay.

P.s. can you get rid of KK or nudge her to leave with Perry? Thanks
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Their salary and bonus structure is higher because they are calling on retina specialists for the majority of their products selling two buy and bill products, an infusion, and an injectable. If you research it, most retina sales reps make even more than they do...
 






not sure what current salary is there. used to be mid 70s, 40k bonus at plan was almost attainable. did the job for years, made more some years, made less others. when kk and ilk came in they hired their friends into rep roles at 100k plus. screwed existing team with little to no bump.

I launched all the LE products and besi and was a top ranked rep. I can't see paying more than 100k total comp for the rx job today. access when I left was about 50% signature only in metro areas. Calls with access devolved into formulary coverage issues. Ophthalmology has become over run with reps, formulary driven and many offices By appt only. It has become a primary care entry level position with me too products.

you might not like it, but that is the truth.
want more pay, go sell something, get paid 200+
 






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not sure what current salary is there. used to be mid 70s, 40k bonus at plan was almost attainable. did the job for years, made more some years, made less others. when kk and ilk came in they hired their friends into rep roles at 100k plus. screwed existing team with little to no bump.

I launched all the LE products and besi and was a top ranked rep. I can't see paying more than 100k total comp for the rx job today. access when I left was about 50% signature only in metro areas. Calls with access devolved into formulary coverage issues. Ophthalmology has become over run with reps, formulary driven and many offices By appt only. It has become a primary care entry level position with me too products.

you might not like it, but that is the truth.
want more pay, go sell something, get paid 200+
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Over run with reps, lol, you don't know what that means until you are in primary care with offices seeing 20 plus reps a day! This is nothing compared to many other specialties...!
 






Did primary before B&L at height of the primary care market with blockbusters. Know all about it. The top OMD prescribers use to see a rep a week when I came in. Now the top guys get multiple reps per day. When I do a device install at a top doc 3 to 5 reps come in, most get no time, most are signature only. Those that do get in get 10 seconds. It's brutal. I feel bad for you.

Point is your access is no where near what it was, the time you get when you do get in is much less, the message is me too, you don't have anything new that requires real medical dialogue, you're restricted by pharma guidelines. Ophthalmics is no longer a specialty Rx sale to any ophthalmic med device hiring manager that knows. My company won't hire ophthalmic rx reps any more, sad but true. And that's why you won't get paid more for the job anymore. Definitely time to move to another specialty.
 






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Their salary and bonus structure is higher because they are calling on retina specialists for the majority of their products selling two buy and bill products, an infusion, and an injectable. If you research it, most retina sales reps make even more than they do...
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Who are you fucking kidding? My valeant rep calls on the same docs I do, I run into them all the time. She doesn't do anything special...ooh buy and Bill. I have vaccine experience I know what buy and bill is and trust me it's not vastly different. Who are you kidding. pay us the money!!!!! 70k...I have pc friends at Pfizer that make that much starting.
 






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Who are you fucking kidding? My valeant rep calls on the same docs I do, I run into them all the time. She doesn't do anything special...ooh buy and Bill. I have vaccine experience I know what buy and bill is and trust me it's not vastly different. Who are you kidding. pay us the money!!!!! 70k...I have pc friends at Pfizer that make that much starting.
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It is your job to market yourself correctly asshole! I guess you missed that course on your way up, if you have even been up. In the corporate world, in order to get your pay raise, you have to move to a new company. Leave to get your bump!
 






Anonymous said:
Who are you fucking kidding? My valeant rep calls on the same docs I do, I run into them all the time. She doesn't do anything special...ooh buy and Bill. I have vaccine experience I know what buy and bill is and trust me it's not vastly different. Who are you kidding. pay us the money!!!!! 70k...I have pc friends at Pfizer that make that much starting.
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This post just goes to show how clueless you are ... Yes, they call on the same doctors as you but they have double the work because they have to spend just as much time with the retina doctors and convince them to order a 13 year old product when newer options prove to be easier and effective. Your just being greedy, most of those reps have done their time in general ophthalmology and have been promoted to call on specialists. And, the ones who don't have ophthalmology experience have proven theirselves in other specialties over the years. They posted the openings for those jobs, that's your damn fault if you were too lazy to interview or maybe you did and weren't selected. That's what's wrong with industry, always wanting someone to give you something...
 






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