Managers Turned Reps

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Would like to know how it's going?? How does it feel now that the "shoe is on the other foot"?? Laugh, laugh, laugh! How are those call averages? Are you closing on every call? Pre-call planning? Access? Blitz? Reach and Freq? Don't forget to use your sales aide on every call... It must be a real bitch getting up everyday and gagging on the very stuff ya'll shoved down our throats through the years! Funny how ya'll not so smart any more.
 






I was wondering when someone was going to start a thread about this.
It is my opinion that most of these managers are spending their time doing as little as
possible except looking for another job. I know one manager that barely is going out in the field other than doing a lunch here or ther.
Imagine what the Dr's must think.
 






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Would like to know how it's going?? How does it feel now that the "shoe is on the other foot"?? Laugh, laugh, laugh! How are those call averages? Are you closing on every call? Pre-call planning? Access? Blitz? Reach and Freq? Don't forget to use your sales aide on every call... It must be a real bitch getting up everyday and gagging on the very stuff ya'll shoved down our throats through the years! Funny how ya'll not so smart any more.
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I think that this is fantastic. My manager remained a manager, but I would have loved to see him demoted to rep. We have a few of those former-flms-turned-rep in our area and they just keep trying to act like managers. avoid those guys at all costs. you never know when the tide could turn again and they could use the information procured when you were "equals" against you in a termination, etc...
 






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Would like to know how it's going?? How does it feel now that the "shoe is on the other foot"?? Laugh, laugh, laugh! How are those call averages? Are you closing on every call? Pre-call planning? Access? Blitz? Reach and Freq? Don't forget to use your sales aide on every call... It must be a real bitch getting up everyday and gagging on the very stuff ya'll shoved down our throats through the years! Funny how ya'll not so smart any more.
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Don't be a douchbag all your life.
 






Anonymous said:
Would like to know how it's going?? How does it feel now that the "shoe is on the other foot"?? Laugh, laugh, laugh! How are those call averages? Are you closing on every call? Pre-call planning? Access? Blitz? Reach and Freq? Don't forget to use your sales aide on every call... It must be a real bitch getting up everyday and gagging on the very stuff ya'll shoved down our throats through the years! Funny how ya'll not so smart any more.
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How many managers are now repping? What areas?

Hey repping it may be a downsize, but it beats flippin burgers, hahaha
 












Agree with above. I think most of the managers haven't accepted the fact that they are now reps are they are still acting like they are managers and can do and say whatever they want
Hopefully some of the "real" managers will have the balls to not be afraid to tell them what to do.
Think about a 50-60 something former manager waiting in the hallway for a signature. Can't see it and it isn't happening
I think the reps need to start calling the hot line when they know the managers are falsifying calls
 






All those displaced DM's that are now reps, will be looking for there next DM job when some become available. I bet they hate life right now, but the fact is they have a job and are making the same amount of base pay just less in commission so how does that feel, when we would complain to you "you would say" can't do anything, well now you can't either so suck it up!!!!
 






Anonymous said:
Would like to know how it's going?? How does it feel now that the "shoe is on the other foot"?? Laugh, laugh, laugh! How are those call averages? Are you closing on every call? Pre-call planning? Access? Blitz? Reach and Freq? Don't forget to use your sales aide on every call... It must be a real bitch getting up everyday and gagging on the very stuff ya'll shoved down our throats through the years! Funny how ya'll not so smart any more.
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OMG~!!!!!! So funny...wow, karma is a bunny rabbit....I have no sympathy for those mgrs and regionals who are now reps.....but, some (few) mgrs are cool (no regionals) and for them I feel sad....but if they are cool former mgrs, then they have friends who willhelp them get out.......for those evil mgrs, enjoy the ride alongs into madness and the psycho partners!
 






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All those displaced DM's that are now reps, will be looking for there next DM job when some become available. I bet they hate life right now, but the fact is they have a job and are making the same amount of base pay just less in commission so how does that feel, when we would complain to you "you would say" can't do anything, well now you can't either so suck it up!!!!
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I heard that they had to take a pay cut Can't imagine Novartis paying a manager turned rep 150K when they could get 2 reps for that price
 


















Managers whose base was more than 129,000 had to take pay cut that is top rep pay. If your base did not exceed above figure no cut in compensation except incentives. Still not a bad gig until something better turns up. Very few if any unless they got out of primary care are left who make above 129, look at all the high tenured long term employees let go. Saved company millions in compensation both in salary, benefits and pension payouts.
 






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Managers whose base was more than 129,000 had to take pay cut that is top rep pay. If your base did not exceed above figure no cut in compensation except incentives. Still not a bad gig until something better turns up. Very few if any unless they got out of primary care are left who make above 129, look at all the high tenured long term employees let go. Saved company millions in compensation both in salary, benefits and pension payouts.
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That is what I thought
My manager was A Senior DM and I expect he was making about 150 or more in base.
I had heard he had to take a pay cut of about 30K so that makes sense.
You would be surprised that many of the tenured managers took rep positions
Still paying more for a manager then for many of the reps that they replaces who were GREAT reps with excellent relationships.
 






It's GREAT being a rep again! Now I get to talk to all the doctors without being a flm and they are more than willing to tell me what I have known for many years but just couldn't prove! Reps are a bunch of over paid lazy bitches who goes into the office to deliver food and gossip with the staff. All the doctors are telling me that they never get a real old fashion detail only a glorified commercial. Reps are idiots! Thank God I am back and can now tell my manager what to do about these reps!!!
 






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