OP here. Wow, I guess my post sounded very strange. Yes, I'm sure it's really a recruiter. My guess is that they won't give a base range as they are going to look at what I made before in my previous job(s) and raise it a minimal amount. That's why I'm wondering what base range is, typically. Said the bonus could be in the $70's at plan. Is that true? What are all the postings about "commission only"? They never mentioned anything about this. As far as car, they would only say that there was an allowance and it varied by the part of the country you're in. (shouldn't be THAT different). And said reps drove nice cars (like that means anything). I assume there is some type of mileage reimbursement/gas card but recruiter just kept saying "this would all be covered when you talk to the hiring manager". I thought that's what recruiters were for!!???
Original responder here. My response was an indictment of the recruiter and not your post. Do not go forward if the recruiter can’t give you a salary range commensurate w/experience. This shows both an unacceptable arrogance and a blatant disregard for the value of your time. The position has a salary band and a potential hire should be privy to it in order to learn whether or not it’s going to be a waste of your time. Anatomical Pathology Sales Reps’ salaries range from 50-95K based on a myriad of local and national laboratories.
Another red flag is that the recruiter didn’t seem to bother to ask what your salary and “at plan” compensation is. At the very least, a recruiter should ask this so he/she knows this isn’t a waste of time, and then say something to the effect that this is well w/in their range. Curious as to why they would share their variable compensation and not the salary. As a candidate, didn’t you ask what the “at plan” compensation is? Were you able to ask what the top reps are making and/or the goal attainment of the previous rep in this position? Not giving a base salary based on your assumption that they will only give you a small bump on your current salary (and this is only true to an extent …) should be more of an impetus to get a salary range first. If your current company’s salary range is 50-70K and you’re currently at 60K. And, Genoptix’s band is 70-90K, there no reason for you not to be offered the mid range of Genooptix’s band instead of low end of 70K.
Genoptix and other pay per performance companies will tout the variable compensation side and will lead you to believe that they are leery about candidates spending time negotiating a base salary since much of the total comp is on the variable side. Bunk! The base to total comp ratio is purely based on the amount of risk the company is willing to assume. If you were making a base of 95K with 150K at plan, you probably wouldn’t jump ship for the same “at plan” compensation with only a 50K base.
The other crap about the car is pretty much the same.
So, OP, why let them push you around? If you’re a good sales rep, then they need you as much if not more than you need them. At the very beginning of this process, both parties are entering into a sales situation. Both parties should be doing a needs assessment to decide whether or not it is worth the time and trouble. Unfortunately, it sounds like they are doing all of the data gathering and stonewalling you from this very important process.
If the recruiter calls again, you should demand the answers to the following questions before releasing your resume or anything about your background:
1. Why is the position open?
2. At what % of plan was the previous rep?
3. What is your prospective manager like? What is the company culture like?
4. What is the salary band for this position, and what is the “at plan” compensation.
5. Or, if you have already given them your salary, ask where it fits into their salary band (lower, mid, upper).
6. Car and other benefits.
There are a dozen more questions, but it sounds these few are a losing proposition. It really is insulting to think you would spend time w/a recruiter and go into a phone interview with a hiring manager w/o the answers to any of these questions. Which begs the question. How is this recruiter going to prepare you for a phone interview, a face to face with the dearth of information currently conveyed?
“I thought that's what recruiters were for!!???” Exactly, which is why I questioned the role of this so-called recruiter. A recruiter is an advocate for both the candidate and the client, but it sounds like this person only has the client’s best interest in mind. A recruiter also ensures the highest degree of probability (even at the very beginning of this process) that this ends in a suitable match for both parties.
With that being the real measure of recruiting, I really don’t think you’re dealing with a recruiter, but some overpaid 3rd party HR extension of the company.