Congrats if you got the offer letter! J&J Is a big name but a very unethical company to say the least. If you think this first waiting game was bad wait till you see the real deal inside. Most of the products really suck but hey it's a job and you should feel good selling crap everyday
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Wow I don't think I can use j&j products anymore for my family after doing some research into this? WTF
$ have a nice dayJust wondering, has anyone who has ever sold with a cso been let go just after training...I mean the entire cso sales force let go?
The way CSO's are structured it can happen. Sometimes contracts are started and positions filled prior to final product approval. There have even been times when competitive products have gone generic earlier than anticipated through court approval. All contracts have clauses that allow them to end at any given point prior to the scheduled duration. Unfortunately any fines or termination fees go straight to the company and not the displaced people. The point is that at any given time the ax can swing based on FDA approvals and the market of the product class. CSO appears to be growing as big pharma cuts back. With CSO you do have the opportunity for further employment as long as new opportunities arise when one ends. With big pharma once your cut your cut. Your do get a nice severance with big pharma compared to just a couple of weeks with CSO. It's what you make of it, pharma is not what it once was/ We can sit here and bitch about having to lower ourselves to CSO or just leave the industry.
Thanks. That's somewhat reassuring. I guess what i was getting at is that I'm hoping since they've invested a significant amount of money training a large contract sales force, that the job is somewhat secure, at least for a while. I know anything can happen.
I disagree with this post. "With big pharma once you're cut you're cut" but "with CSO us do have the opportunity for further employment as long as new opportunities arise when one ends."
BS. In both cases you are UNEMPLOYED. CSO's moving to a new contract have to interview for the position (in at least some, if not most or all cases). How is that different from being cut from Big P and applying out of the blue?
People coming off a Quintiles contract and who applied for the J&J contract had to run the same overdone gauntlet of multiple interviews with multiple J&J managers as did anyone else. Being a pre-existing Quintiles employee didn't seem to mean dick.
As far as I'm concerned, this tells you all you need to know about being a CSO. You have much less assurance of continued employment than does a "regular" rep, even in this risk-filled industry. Those who say otherwise should cite some examples.
You are correct. Only those on the very top know what their agenda plan is and maybe they just don't know at the time people are hired. A rep anywhere = corporate pawn