How to properly address the problem.

[RTBKPL]

Long time no be here GI.....well I too have been contacted by the DOJ investigators and asked what I had to add to offer to the evidence of Novartis' dinner programs, round tables, lunches and other criminal acts. Ha ha. Well, let's face it, every company is doing it...every DM looking to become a RM is pushing every rep to push the rules to and beyond the envelope. I would love to be on the stand testifying as to how I felt about the programs, what I was told by management, how I was reprimanded for "not spending all my promotional money." I told them it was a waste of time, you get the same three elderly docs at each program, no one at home to cook for them so why not show up for a freebie? Same thing with lunches much of the time, the doctor you want to see doesn't come to the lunch, you are lucky if you can chase him down in the hall for a "signature quickie." Problem is that no one gets cuffed and lead away to the pokey at the end of the trial. Novartis pays a huge fine, the stock holders pay for it essentially and Joe Jimenez and his minions pocket their big bonus' and stock options and on to the next debacle. I just hope the folks I knew who made it to the top of the food chain didn't become involved in such activities. I knew of reps who were "killing it." But to kill in in many cases you had to not just bend the rules but shatter them. Christmas party? Sure doctor.....I'll just put it down as a lunch, have all the attendees sign in and we will be good to go. And don't tell me the manager didn't know about it when every rep and competitor did.......and one opened their mouth and bang, someone lost their job. It's called KARMA. Good luck everyone....keep your nose clean and remember.....

Never let the bastards get you down.

RTBKPL

 

[anonymous]

Amazingly when your sales were say robust & ranking high, even say top 10%, you would still be reprimanded for not spending your budget, like there was a complete disconnect from the reality on the ground Vs the management agenda to flood the market with countless speaker programs lunches etc because there couldn't possibly be a downside to letting the docs gorge on the easy pay 2 play buckaroo$
Ever since the legal case was unsealed notice how Novartis was busted in a half dozen or more countries for the exact same issue, including criminal indictments recently in S Korea

Yet they maintain this isn't their 'culture' really How TF did Novartis manage to commit the same crimes globally if this wasn't a core component of NVS marketing strategy?

 

[anonymous]

Long time no be here GI.....well I too have been contacted by the DOJ investigators and asked what I had to add to offer to the evidence of Novartis' dinner programs, round tables, lunches and other criminal acts. Ha ha. Well, let's face it, every company is doing it...every DM looking to become a RM is pushing every rep to push the rules to and beyond the envelope. I would love to be on the stand testifying as to how I felt about the programs, what I was told by management, how I was reprimanded for "not spending all my promotional money." I told them it was a waste of time, you get the same three elderly docs at each program, no one at home to cook for them so why not show up for a freebie? Same thing with lunches much of the time, the doctor you want to see doesn't come to the lunch, you are lucky if you can chase him down in the hall for a "signature quickie." Problem is that no one gets cuffed and lead away to the pokey at the end of the trial. Novartis pays a huge fine, the stock holders pay for it essentially and Joe Jimenez and his minions pocket their big bonus' and stock options and on to the next debacle. I just hope the folks I knew who made it to the top of the food chain didn't become involved in such activities. I knew of reps who were "killing it." But to kill in in many cases you had to not just bend the rules but shatter them. Christmas party? Sure doctor.....I'll just put it down as a lunch, have all the attendees sign in and we will be good to go. And don't tell me the manager didn't know about it when every rep and competitor did.......and one opened their mouth and bang, someone lost their job. It's called KARMA. Good luck everyone....keep your nose clean and remember.....

Never let the bastards get you down.

RTBKPL

Yeah uh huh what is this Aesops fables ? yawn

 

[anonymous]

The problem doesn't realize it's the "problem". That's the biggest failure in this company.... When the people in charge are the same recycled people that were problems in other BU's then nothing will ever get "fixed". It's as simple as that...... People don't leave companies, they leave managers. Look around in every BU and you see it daily. The folks with the best leadership skills don't get promoted because they are seen as threats, troublemakers for questioning direction that makes no sense, calls their managers out on blatant lies, etc..... Novartis will always be seen as a black hole in anyone's career outside Novartis...... Think of that before you come here.

 

[anonymous]

Here's the microcosm of Novartis denial & dillusion aka WTF did you think was going to happen to the TWO POINT THREE MILLION DOLLARS worth of "play money" you budgeted to these oafish patsies?????
That hasn't happened ALREADY a dozen times over since 2010 no less ???
Novartis is just a nauseating scummy pile of corrupt puke

Six Novartis Korea Managers Indicted Over Illegal Payments to Doctors SEOUL—Prosecutors have indicted a former chief executive of the South Korean unit ofNovartis and five other former and current managers over allegations they illegally paid doctors 2.6 billion won ($2.3 million) in return for prescribing the company’s drugs.

 

[anonymous]

The problem doesn't realize it's the "problem". That's the biggest failure in this company.... When the people in charge are the same recycled people that were problems in other BU's then nothing will ever get "fixed". It's as simple as that...... People don't leave companies, they leave managers. Look around in every BU and you see it daily. The folks with the best leadership skills don't get promoted because they are seen as threats, troublemakers for questioning direction that makes no sense, calls their managers out on blatant lies, etc..... Novartis will always be seen as a black hole in anyone's career outside Novartis...... Think of that before you come here.

 

[anonymous]

The problem doesn't realize it's the "problem". That's the biggest failure in this company.... When the people in charge are the same recycled people that were problems in other BU's then nothing will ever get "fixed". It's as simple as that...... People don't leave companies, they leave managers. Look around in every BU and you see it daily. The folks with the best leadership skills don't get promoted because they are seen as threats, troublemakers for questioning direction that makes no sense, calls their managers out on blatant lies, etc..... Novartis will always be seen as a black hole in anyone's career outside Novartis...... Think of that before you come here.

Well said! Absolutely true. Thought I was alone in this hell hole.

 

[anonymous]

To all the above: BRAVO!!
Been in this hell hole for 18 yrs.
agree completely with all of you, said it many times, and was told to shut up or I'd lose my job. Got to feed the family.

Give'em hell!

 

[anonymous]

Well thank goodness all other industries are white as snow. It's capitalism punk-ass and there's good & bad. Wanna see bad? Keep up ur tattle-tale gayness and you'll end-up with single-payer & price reg's.

Now let's hear some more Johnny-do-gooder fodder.

 

[anonymous]

Well thank goodness all other industries are white as snow. It's capitalism punk-ass and there's good & bad. Wanna see bad? Keep up ur tattle-tale gayness and you'll end-up with single-payer & price reg's.

Now let's hear some more Johnny-do-gooder fodder.

You're an asshole Who cares what other crooked industries do, they'll be punished for their crimes eventually as well
Oh yeah & pity we have big bad govt instituting child labor laws , non discrimination , enviromental protection , Too bad you didn't live on some superfund toxic dump like GE created in upstate NY or the Cuyahoga River that literally cought on fire from all the gasoline & other pollutants big business & Rockafeller dumped in there before he knew it was profitable
What a douche! Hope you need gleevec soon for your hubris & callousness

 

[anonymous]

Well thank goodness all other industries are white as snow. It's capitalism punk-ass and there's good & bad. Wanna see bad? Keep up ur tattle-tale gayness and you'll end-up with single-payer & price reg's.

Now let's hear some more Johnny-do-gooder fodder.

Does your mommy know you're on the computer sport?? Now go away while the adults talk..... Twit.