How is vacation and what type of company car?
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Depends on where you go but usually nice, I go to the beach. And yes company car included.
Basic questions that you don’t worry about till you get an offer. Then you negotiate you dumb ass.
Sun is a crappy company. Look at the turnover, it’s probably close to 50% in the field. Look at where people come from: gyms, nursing homes, landscapers.
Seriously.
No one comes to Sun for a career.
No one. You’ll fit in just fine.
As a manager , if you choose to negotiate with me after I present the offer I am most likely going to pull the offer. It’s a giant red flag. Actually did this a few times. So maybe think long term about negotiating for stuff that isn’t negotiable. Who is the real moron?
If a potential employee respectfully makes a counter offer /asks for more comp or PTO, then:
1. why are you most likely to pull the offer ?
2. why is it a red flag ?
3. why do YOU think these things are not negotiable?
You need to answer EACH of these questions in order to have any level of credibility.
And before you get started, know that I worked for Sun, I NEGOTIATED 20k additional in salary, and an extra week of PTO.
“You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take”
Now, tell me, who’s the real moron ?
see - he won’t reply. No way. He got toasted with his Mumbai-like arrogant attitude.
And you are PRECISELY the type of manager NO ONE wants to work for. Negotiation starts at the offer letter and everyone knows the offer is a start, not the best. Having been a manager before I know there’s a budget to manage, so the offer leaves some scraps on the side to be able to close the offer for talent, but only if the talent requests. You need the talent much more than the talent needs Sun.
Different strokes I suppose. Really, there must be an enormous disconnect if you haven’t discussed what they needed to come on board. The fact you have had not cleared that hurdle makes me think the only thing you manage is doing your own laundry…maybe not even that.
Exactky my point. Yes I did each time. Plenty of people worked for me over and over. Made a great living so maybe some here might be off. Reps gonna be reps. It’s that simple.
The last line says it best. Sun needs you. You don’t need Sun. Full stop.
And there’s also no negotiation so - the company doesn’t budge on vacation. If you’ve somehow done it, share how.
I'll work on that right after you go fuck yourself, OK?
ROFL, you would never say that to my face. I’d bet a lot of money on that. Stupid rep you have zero power of any of it.
Here's an idea. How about I get a spoon so you can eat my ass?
It took a lot of different strokes before I was able to come on broads.
All I know is there is one very hot rep that enjoys having her ass eaten!
Lmao!! If a spoon is needed then I recommend you see a doctor, stat.