Finally, the Apfel Pharmacoeconomic Data on IV Acetaminophen in all of our pharmacists hands

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It has been years in the making! I just received a copy of Apfel's pharmcoeconomic article in AJHP from one of my phamacist "friends". It had all the data, formulas, and doubt my MSL told me it would have. But, honestly, my pharmacist loved the ending. To quote the authors:

"Furthermore, the purchase price of i.v. acetaminophen itself affects the pharmacoeconomic analysis. This study was conceived and this analysis conducted well before the price increase associated with the acqisition of Cadence Pharmaceuticals by Mallinckrodt, none of which was known at the time of manuscript submission. Thus, given the price increase, the pharmacoeconomic part of this analysis is no longer current and should not be used to justify the price increases that make i.v. acetaminophen less accessible to patients in the United States while increasing our total healthcare costs."

Glad we waited so long for this PE data that we will use to justify the price increase. My institution is going back to P&T with this publication in hand. What next? They find out it is only dissolved tabs in water? I hope not. I have to give my MSL credit. He said this paper would be useless to the field. I never thought it would be used against us.

Sorry for the long post. It just pissed me off after I actually read it.
 












HAHAHAHAHAHA. I told you loser HSSs the data stunk.

Sincerely

your MSL
looks like I'm going to have to sleep with one of my DOPs again. Shit, I thought
I would be done with him, but with that disclaimer at the end! Looks like I'll be taking
It again. My kids would be so ashamed if they knew I was pretty much screwing people to keep my product from being pulled off formulary.
 






HAHAHAHAHAHA. I told you loser HSSs the data stunk.

Sincerely

your MSL

"I told you loser HSSs the data stunk." This says it all regarding the douche who posted above. They can't spell, they don't understand grammar, they are too immature for words, and they were an OSS that was kicked to the curb. Goodbye!
 






"I told you loser HSSs the data stunk." This says it all regarding the douche who posted above. They can't spell, they don't understand grammar, they are too immature for words, and they were an OSS that was kicked to the curb. Goodbye!
Disclaimer or not, believing that PE data would somehow change perceptions and subsequently change the sales trajectory is buying into fool's gold.
 






looks like I'm going to have to sleep with one of my DOPs again. Shit, I thought
I would be done with him, but with that disclaimer at the end! Looks like I'll be taking
It again. My kids would be so ashamed if they knew I was pretty much screwing people to keep my product from being pulled off formulary.
You sound hot!!!
 






TO POST #1. GOD AM I GLAD I DID NOT TAKE A POSITION WITH THEM. TIME AND TIME AGAIN I KEPTED ASKING THE DM AND NSM WHAT WERE THEIR PLANS FOR THE PRICE INCREASE AND THEY HAD NONE...ZERO...NATTA... I JUST LAUGHED AND TOLD THEM NO THANKS. I ALMOST WISHED I SAID TO THEM GET YOUR RESUME POLICHED BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO NEED IT.
 






TO POST #1. GOD AM I GLAD I DID NOT TAKE A POSITION WITH THEM. TIME AND TIME AGAIN I KEPTED ASKING THE DM AND NSM WHAT WERE THEIR PLANS FOR THE PRICE INCREASE AND THEY HAD NONE...ZERO...NATTA... I JUST LAUGHED AND TOLD THEM NO THANKS. I ALMOST WISHED I SAID TO THEM GET YOUR RESUME POLICHED BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO NEED IT.
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You got it all wrong, they are getting promoted!!!!!!
 






TO POST #1. GOD AM I GLAD I DID NOT TAKE A POSITION WITH THEM. TIME AND TIME AGAIN I KEPTED ASKING THE DM AND NSM WHAT WERE THEIR PLANS FOR THE PRICE INCREASE AND THEY HAD NONE...ZERO...NATTA... I JUST LAUGHED AND TOLD THEM NO THANKS. I ALMOST WISHED I SAID TO THEM GET YOUR RESUME POLICHED BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO NEED IT.

I asked the same question and they told me hosting a lot of speaker programs and leveraging surgical relationships is their main direction. Totally serious. The manager I interviewed with is a complete joke. Bloody shame.
 






TO POST #1. GOD AM I GLAD I DID NOT TAKE A POSITION WITH THEM. TIME AND TIME AGAIN I KEPTED ASKING THE DM AND NSM WHAT WERE THEIR PLANS FOR THE PRICE INCREASE AND THEY HAD NONE...ZERO...NATTA... I JUST LAUGHED AND TOLD THEM NO THANKS. I ALMOST WISHED I SAID TO THEM GET YOUR RESUME POLICHED BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO NEED IT.

Would you go away OSS rep that was laid off because they didn't want you. Your story is bogus. Yes, this company sucks, but that story is a bunch of shit, especially when we all know the current sales openings and those that are conducting the interviews. "I just laughed and told them no thanks". Yeah that's it. Sure you did. Go away loser. So sad you keep spending time on this thread when you don't even work here. If anything is a laugh, it is you.
 






Would you go away OSS rep that was laid off because they didn't want you. Your story is bogus. Yes, this company sucks, but that story is a bunch of shit, especially when we all know the current sales openings and those that are conducting the interviews. "I just laughed and told them no thanks". Yeah that's it. Sure you did. Go away loser. So sad you keep spending time on this thread when you don't even work here. If anything is a laugh, it is you.

Another hot head loser HSS rep that's mad because they are stuck in this deadend job and has no where to go. You've spent 15 years calling on pharmacy and you have nothing to show for it except a job that nobody wants with a company that nobody respects. It's you that everyone is laughing at, esp when we see you in the hospital wearing scrubs, pretending that you have a reason to be there. Hahahaha tylenol rep
 






You guys have a tough job. Good data if you can just get past the pharmacy hounds wanting you killed on sight, much less allowed in the hospital. Our local territory has been through 3 reps in the last year, I interviewed with them a long time ago (before purchase and price increase) and it wasn't a good time for me to move. The local manager sent me a text asking if I was interested and I said no, pharmacy doesn't like me now, I don't want a bounty on my head.
 






Another hot head loser HSS rep that's mad because they are stuck in this deadend job and has no where to go. You've spent 15 years calling on pharmacy and you have nothing to show for it except a job that nobody wants with a company that nobody respects. It's you that everyone is laughing at, esp when we see you in the hospital wearing scrubs, pretending that you have a reason to be there. Hahahaha tylenol rep

Pleeeeeease! You're a joke. I have recruiters calling me all the time and that is no joke. I have just turned down two opportunities this past month alone. There are more jobs out there now than ever before. I can choose to be selective and I am going to be.
 






Pleeeeeease! You're a joke. I have recruiters calling me all the time and that is no joke. I have just turned down two opportunities this past month alone. There are more jobs out there now than ever before. I can choose to be selective and I am going to be.

You turned down Taco Bell swing manager and Subway sandwich artist, congrats. Keep telling yourself that you are being "selective". We all know what that means
 






You turned down Taco Bell swing manager and Subway sandwich artist, congrats. Keep telling yourself that you are being "selective". We all know what that means

No, but you wouldn't know about the opportunities because clearly your resume and performance wouldn't cut the mustard. We would list the companies that are looking right now, but you're an ass. So why would we?
 






Pleeeeeease! You're a joke. I have recruiters calling me all the time and that is no joke. I have just turned down two opportunities this past month alone. There are more jobs out there now than ever before. I can choose to be selective and I am going to be.

You "turned down two opportunities"? So you went thru the interview process, was offered the job, then turned it down? Or you just told the recruiter that you didn't want a job paying 60k? Big difference on the two. I'm guessing it's the second of the two that your speaking of.

Last I checked OSS reps weren't laid off based off of performance but based off Mallinckrodt's lack of ability to properly forecast a poorly launched drug.

Hahahaha. I still laugh when I see you in the hospital wearing scrubs. Do you even know what a sterile field looks like? You'd probably pass out at the first sight of blood. Make sure to order fat Nancy the receptionist a Turkey Bravo when you bring Panera tomorrow. Hahahahahahaha
 






You "turned down two opportunities"? So you went thru the interview process, was offered the job, then turned it down? Or you just told the recruiter that you didn't want a job paying 60k? Big difference on the two. I'm guessing it's the second of the two that your speaking of.

Last I checked OSS reps weren't laid off based off of performance but based off Mallinckrodt's lack of ability to properly forecast a poorly launched drug.

Hahahaha. I still laugh when I see you in the hospital wearing scrubs. Do you even know what a sterile field looks like? You'd probably pass out at the first sight of blood. Make sure to order fat Nancy the receptionist a Turkey Bravo when you bring Panera tomorrow. Hahahahahahaha

Wow! You're that OSS LAID OFF LOSER again! Boy, you just won't give it a break! You don't know shit about what we do and that is the scary part. I also have news for you A-hole. The other poster was talking about three very specific opportunities that specific reps from the territory were targeted for. Believe it or not, strong reps with very successful backgrounds get unsolicited pharmaceutical sales job offers all the time. I know you're still struggling because no one wants to hire you. Now go away!
 






Wow! You're that OSS LAID OFF LOSER again! Boy, you just won't give it a break! You don't know shit about what we do and that is the scary part. I also have news for you A-hole. The other poster was talking about three very specific opportunities that specific reps from the territory were targeted for. Believe it or not, strong reps with very successful backgrounds get unsolicited pharmaceutical sales job offers all the time. I know you're still struggling because no one wants to hire you. Now go away!

So you're getting offered jobs that you are turning down. So that says 1 or 2 things: #1: that is the type of job that recruiters think you are qualified to do, or #2: only shitty jobs are out there. Have fun staying at Mallinckrodt. Just more proof that you have no where to go. "Would you like fries with that"
 






So you're getting offered jobs that you are turning down. So that says 1 or 2 things: #1: that is the type of job that recruiters think you are qualified to do, or #2: only shitty jobs are out there. Have fun staying at Mallinckrodt. Just more proof that you have no where to go. "Would you like fries with that"
Nope. Pay and overall packages are good but I have no immediate major problems working here and love the product. You literally seem clueless as to some of the opportunities hiring right now. You seem clueless about a lot of things. I'm not changing until I find something that personally interests me and I believe in the product and there is nothing wrong with that. Believe what you want, but the opportunities are very good ones. There are just some areas of medicine I am tired of calling on and will wait. You wasted enough people's time on here. You are just a bag of hot air and a whiner. One can easily tell you have no skill set and you were a basic office rep that the company was very happy to cut loose. The saddest and most pathetic posts come from you. You have no life and no longer work here and are so bitter its eating you up inside. Go seek help as I feel you need to be heavily medicated in order to continue with your pathetic life. You have issues.
 






Nope. Pay and overall packages are good but I have no immediate major problems working here and love the product. You literally seem clueless as to some of the opportunities hiring right now. You seem clueless about a lot of things. I'm not changing until I find something that personally interests me and I believe in the product and there is nothing wrong with that. Believe what you want, but the opportunities are very good ones. There are just some areas of medicine I am tired of calling on and will wait. You wasted enough people's time on here. You are just a bag of hot air and a whiner. One can easily tell you have no skill set and you were a basic office rep that the company was very happy to cut loose. The saddest and most pathetic posts come from you. You have no life and no longer work here and are so bitter its eating you up inside. Go seek help as I feel you need to be heavily medicated in order to continue with your pathetic life. You have issues.

"I have no immediate major problems working here" You enjoy getting laughed at by your customers and your peers? You don't see a problem working for a company that time after time fucks over every single person that works there? You don't see an issue with the fact that every day you go to work your company is destroying your reputation? Have fun staying at Mallinckrodt then. The fact that you don't have any problems with working at Mallinckrodt says a lot about your character and your career choices. Hey I hear a new product is going to be announced, maybe the cleaning lady that will be running the division at that time, will be able to turn the ship around. LOSER