Fascism in the American Justice System.

[D_A_R_T_H]

The United States has less than 5 percent of the world's population. But it has almost a quarter of the world's prisoners. And have more prisoners than the industrialized world combined. This should be ringing alarm bells, no way are there that many criminals. Who's surprised that minority populations are the target of this run away "system of justice"? All the while the big wigs on Wall St. and Beltway produce crime after crime on a grand scale and receive little more than a slap on the wrist. In fact there are two separate Americas.

Rights group blasts US justice over racial gap

A leading rights group slammed the United States on Monday for "overwhelming" racial disparities in its criminal justice system, and shortcomings in its approach to immigration and anti-terrorism measures.

Human Rights Watch said in its annual world report that in the US prison system -- which still has the world's largest population of 2,297,400 inmates, according to the latest figures from June 2009 -- black non-Hispanic males are incarcerated at a rate more than six times that of white non-Hispanic males.

The disparity "cannot be accounted for solely by differences in criminal conduct," said HRW in its 2011 World Report.

In 2009, one in 10 black males aged 25-29 were in prison, and for Hispanic males the figure was one in 25 -- for white males the figure was one in 64.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/rights-group-blasts-justice-racial-gap/

 

[I Love America]

The United States has less than 5 percent of the world's population. But it has almost a quarter of the world's prisoners. And has just about more prisoners than the world combined. This should be ringing alarm bells, no way are there that many criminals. Who's surprised that minority populations are the target of this run away "system of justice"? All the while the big wigs on Wall St. and Beltway produce crime on after crime on a grand scale and receive little more than a slap on the wrist.

All in Barack Hussein Obama's America. How can he let this happen? You would think the other half of his DNA would give him better insights to their plight.

 

[D_A_R_T_H]

All in Barack Hussein Obama's America. How can he let this happen? You would think the other half of his DNA would give him better insights to their plight.

Obama and his AG Eric Holder have been at the forefront of this issue:

WASHNGTON D.C. -- The House of Representatives passed a landmark bill Wednesday that reduces decades-old disparities in crack and powder cocaine prison sentencing that resulted in the disproportionate incarceration of blacks.
http://newamericamedia.org/2010/07/disparities-in-cocaine-sentences-finally-reduced.php

Additionally they have blocked the illegal SP 1070 'show me your papers' law which was written by white supremacist sympathizers in the AZ legislator. The bill was nothing more than a hustle for the private prison industry which lobbied for billions in federal funds to target the Hispanic population for imprisonment. But this does little to account for past injustices that have adversely affected these populations and created an underground criminal culture as otherwise decent individuals become hardened criminals when exposed to hardcore criminals.

 

[Rush's Anal Boil]

The United States has less than 5 percent of the world's population. But it has almost a quarter of the world's prisoners. And has just about more prisoners than the world combined. This should be ringing alarm bells, no way are there that many criminals. Who's surprised that minority populations are the target of this run away "system of justice"? All the while the big wigs on Wall St. and Beltway produce crime after crime on a grand scale and receive little more than a slap on the wrist. In fact there are two separate Americas.

Dont you know we cant bring this up? Just ask SPN.

Lets talk about all those liberal policies as the cause for so many black females having babies without husbands around. Welfare made them do it.

If they would just marry those dads in prison, everything will be all Ozzy and Harriet and stuff. and that rate would go down.

Problem solved.

 

[D_A_R_T_H]

Dont you know we cant bring this up? Just ask SPN.

Lets talk about all those liberal policies as the cause for so many black females having babies without husbands around. Welfare made them do it.

If they would just marry those dads in prison, everything will be all Ozzy and Harriet and stuff. and that rate would go down.

Problem solved.

Yeah, SPN is really the resident expert on these things, I'm sure she's really compassionate about the subject. Or more like trying to explain these inequalities to fit her narrow ideology.

 

[Pale Horse]

The United States has less than 5 percent of the world's population. But it has almost a quarter of the world's prisoners. And have more prisoners than the industrialized world combined. This should be ringing alarm bells, no way are there that many criminals. Who's surprised that minority populations are the target of this run away "system of justice"? All the while the big wigs on Wall St. and Beltway produce crime after crime on a grand scale and receive little more than a slap on the wrist. In fact there are two separate Americas.

I have found that not breaking the law keeps me out of jail.

 

[Huggy Bear]

the neokkklan on here have such issues w obama : if he fixes this disparity hes a black sympathizer if he doesnt its cuz hes racist
the truth is this disparity especially w crack has been a long time coming
but whos really more dangerous? someone with an addiction or a wall street thug illegally reaping millions off peoples retirements?

 

[jasmin]

I have found that not breaking the law keeps me out of jail.

This works for most of us! But if you're a liberal, you're supposed to be able to commit crimes and 'be understood'. Why would you follow those laws set up by establishment and the man? They're out to get you, you know.

 

[I Love America]

the neokkklan on here have such issues w obama : if he fixes this disparity hes a black sympathizer if he doesnt its cuz hes racist
the truth is this disparity especially w crack has been a long time coming
but whos really more dangerous? someone with an addiction or a wall street thug illegally reaping millions off peoples retirements?

Why do you liberals make this so easy? Lets break off some logic for ya.

It is a well known fact that the nuclear family gives children the best chance for leading a productive life.

It is a well known fact that children raised by single mothers have a higher liklihood of using drugs/alcohol and committing crimes

Since the expansion of the welfare state, which by the way paid MORE MONEY for single mama homes, the rate of illigitimacy has increased across ALL demographics, but most glaringly in the black community.

Hence, welfare state has led to more crimes, specifically in the black community.

Like I said, if the democrat started KKK really wanted to destroy black families, they should have just given up the white hoods and supported liberal policies.

BTW dipshits, who exactly is doing those drive by shootings in da hood? Is that the Klan?

 

[jasmin]

NPM, a typical liberal who can't let facts get in his way. China's numbers of prisoners reported don't include the thousands in administrative detention nor those who are in labor camps as political prisoners. And he must have missed these facts from the original article:

There is little question that the high incarceration rate here has helped drive down crime, though there is debate about how much. From 1981 to 1996, according to Justice Department statistics, the risk of punishment rose in the United States and fell in England. The crime rates predictably moved in the opposite directions, falling in the United States and rising in England.“These figures,” Mr. Cassell wrote, “should give one pause before too quickly concluding that European sentences are appropriate.”

But American prison stays are much longer, so the total incarceration rate is higher. If lists were compiled based on annual admissions to prison per capita, several European countries would outpace the United States. Burglars in the United States serve an average of 16 months in prison, according to Mr. Mauer, compared with 5 months in Canada and 7 months in England.

It is true that blacks are much more likely to be imprisoned than other groups in the United States, but that is not a particularly distinctive phenomenon. Minorities in Canada, Britain and Australia are also disproportionately represented in those nation’s prisons, and the ratios are similar to or larger than those in the United States.

How many in the US are illegals? How many would have hands cut off or worse in other countries? It is the US liberal policies and allowance of little to no punishment and turning a blind eye to repeat offenders that feeds the prison population. Oh, and how dare we put them in solitary confinement when they are a danger to others or would be killed themselves. Why, that is is is torture! Don't pay attention to what they did to get there, no way!

And then there's this, which no American would apologize for:
[“America is a comparatively tough place, which puts a strong emphasis on individual responsibility,” Mr. Whitman of Yale wrote. “That attitude has shown up in the American criminal justice of the last 30 years.”

 

[Som's lover]

This is a tricky situation. racism and discrimination can never be solved by passing new bills or implementing new laws. The disease is in our hearts.

 

[D_A_R_T_H]

NPM, a typical liberal who can't let facts get in his way. China's numbers of prisoners reported don't include the thousands in administrative detention nor those who are in labor camps as political prisoners. And he must have missed these facts from the original article:

There is little question that the high incarceration rate here has helped drive down crime, though there is debate about how much. From 1981 to 1996, according to Justice Department statistics, the risk of punishment rose in the United States and fell in England. The crime rates predictably moved in the opposite directions, falling in the United States and rising in England.“These figures,” Mr. Cassell wrote, “should give one pause before too quickly concluding that European sentences are appropriate.”

But American prison stays are much longer, so the total incarceration rate is higher. If lists were compiled based on annual admissions to prison per capita, several European countries would outpace the United States. Burglars in the United States serve an average of 16 months in prison, according to Mr. Mauer, compared with 5 months in Canada and 7 months in England.

It is true that blacks are much more likely to be imprisoned than other groups in the United States, but that is not a particularly distinctive phenomenon. Minorities in Canada, Britain and Australia are also disproportionately represented in those nation’s prisons, and the ratios are similar to or larger than those in the United States.

How many in the US are illegals? How many would have hands cut off or worse in other countries? It is the US liberal policies and allowance of little to no punishment and turning a blind eye to repeat offenders that feeds the prison population. Oh, and how dare we put them in solitary confinement when they are a danger to others or would be killed themselves. Why, that is is is torture! Don't pay attention to what they did to get there, no way!

And then there's this, which no American would apologize for:
[“America is a comparatively tough place, which puts a strong emphasis on individual responsibility,” Mr. Whitman of Yale wrote. “That attitude has shown up in the American criminal justice of the last 30 years.”

What good is it to reduce the crime rate if the laws that they enforce are unjust? We could make it a law that it’s illegal to have a red car, and if you do it carries a 5 year sentence. I’m sure the rate for which people have a red car would dramatically decline, while some unjustly serve five year sentences for having a red car.

 

[Pale Horse]

All the while the big wigs on Wall St. and Beltway produce crime after crime on a grand scale and receive little more than a slap on the wrist.

Tell that to Dennis Kozlowski, Jeffrey Skilling, and Bernie Ebbers.

However you are right about inside the beltway dudes a la Charlie Rangel.

 

[Pale Horse]

This is a tricky situation. racism and discrimination can never be solved by passing new bills or implementing new laws. The disease is in our hearts.

Then let's decriminalize it like pot. Problem solved!

 

[Conservative Independent Here]

Legalize drugs in controlled ratios and tax the shit out of it.

If a person pulls a gun or commits a crime of violence with a deadly weapon, no second chances, 25 years to life in prison.

Legalizing drugs would free up our prisons for the criminals that are not inclined to be rehabed. 5% of the entire criminal population are responsible for 100% of violent crime. They are recommitting violence over and over again until they are to old or dead. Just lock them up.


http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=12738

 

[Conservative Independent Here]

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhsSnBKG1496o8ptvc

And, in addition The Onion chimes in on this issue. Maybe this is the way we should handle all court cases?

 

[Bubble Burster]

What good is it to reduce the crime rate if the laws that they enforce are unjust? We could make it a law that it’s illegal to have a red car, and if you do it carries a 5 year sentence. I’m sure the rate for which people have a red car would dramatically decline, while some unjustly serve five year sentences for having a red car.

It can be argued that the reason there are so many people in prison in the US is that the liberals have created a lenient sentencing system under which a convicted murderer can be let out on parole after only actually having served a short time in custody. Our sentencing laws provide no deterrence to potential criminals.

In most countries of the world, a a life sentence means precisely that. You serve life. No possibility of parole. As a result, many people are motivated to avoid committing crimes. There are 52 countries that have the death penalty. Sentences are usually carried out immediately upon conviction (in some cases on the same day), so prisons in those countries are not filled with thousands of people on death rows. That also reduces the prison populations.


Countries with the Most Confirmed Executions in 2008
1. China (1,718)
2. Iran (346)
3. Saudi Arabia (102)
4. United States (37)
5. Pakistan (36)
6. Iraq (34)



http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/death-penalty-international-perspective

 

[D_A_R_T_H]

It can be argued that the reason there are so many people in prison in the US is that the liberals have created a lenient sentencing system under which a convicted murderer can be let out on parole after only actually having served a short time in custody. Our sentencing laws provide no deterrence to potential criminals.

In most countries of the world, a a life sentence means precisely that. You serve life. No possibility of parole. As a result, many people are motivated to avoid committing crimes. There are 52 countries that have the death penalty. Sentences are usually carried out immediately upon conviction (in some cases on the same day), so prisons in those countries are not filled with thousands of people on death rows. That also reduces the prison populations.


Countries with the Most Confirmed Executions in 2008
1. China (1,718)
2. Iran (346)
3. Saudi Arabia (102)
4. United States (37)
5. Pakistan (36)
6. Iraq (34)



http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/death-penalty-international-perspective

Right, we have the highest incarseration rate in the world because our senencing is too lenient? That would make absolutly no sence and is total BS:

Indeed, the United States leads the world in producing prisoners, a reflection of a relatively recent and now entirely distinctive American approach to crime and punishment. Americans are locked up for crimes — from writing bad checks to using drugs — that would rarely produce prison sentences in other countries. And in particular they are kept incarcerated far longer than prisoners in other nations.

Criminologists and legal scholars in other industrialized nations say they are mystified and appalled by the number and length of American prison sentences.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/23/world/americas/23iht-23prison.12253738.html

 

[Outside]

Legalize drugs in controlled ratios and tax the shit out of it.

If a person pulls a gun or commits a crime of violence with a deadly weapon, no second chances, 25 years to life in prison.

Legalizing drugs would free up our prisons for the criminals that are not inclined to be rehabed. 5% of the entire criminal population are responsible for 100% of violent crime. They are recommitting violence over and over again until they are to old or dead. Just lock them up.


http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=12738

The "war on drugs" has produced too many "criminals" but has done nothing to combat drugs. You are right, fix this problem first and focus on real crime.