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Ending Pharma as we no know it - Republicans starting to get on-board wtih Obama Care

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"Everyone Knows Obama Supports Entitlement Cuts — Here’s What They Are

"Republicans are beginning to acknowledge that President Obama indeed supports and has even proposed cutting spending on Medicare and Social Security.

“He certainly understands that you can’t fix the country without adjusting entitlements to fit the demographics of our country,” Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) told reporters in the Capitol on Thursday after Obama met with Senate Republicans."

"In the first category are a number of provider-side cuts to Medicare spending listed in Obama’s budget (.pdf).

The most significant of these would align the rebates Medicare receives for prescription drugs with higher rebates that Medicaid receives for the same drugs."

The best estimate is that it will cut an average of 30% off the price of every drug marketed and sold through Medicaid, in the US.

All studies on this has shown that this will DRASTICALLY impact the business plans of all Pharma in the US.

Going forward - no pharma will be silly enough to invest in research and development for "2nd best" drugs / treatments as they are almost just as expensive to develop as first-to-market / best-in-class drugs and with much less profit in the market to share with the makers of those drugs it doesn't make sense. So all drugs in the current pipelines and all those going forward in the future will have a much higher hurdle to cross as they move down it. Will it be clearly clinically superior to those (my be multiple drugs in the market as it is currently structured) or the one (as soon as the market reaches equilibrium if the new regulations are enacted) enough to knock the current front runner out of the market. In product development its called the "King of the Hill Model". This legislation will essentially force the "King of the Hill" dynamics model into existence as it will make it economically inflatable for multiple "Princes" to "Share the Hill" and kept there by expensive Marketing and Sales operations.

Ans also, the market dynamic for justifying "2nd best drugs" in order to hold the price on the Best-in-Class / Market Leaders is almost completely gone.

So, the end of the current market structure of Pharma in the US is nye.
 








Re: Ending Pharma as we no know it - Republicans starting to get on-board wtih Obama

Nye?
Try "nigh".
And everything else is wrong, also.

"nye" was meant to be in quotations and capitalized, as you did in your comments, to allude to "Bill Nye the Science Guy" who has a famous set of YouTube videos on the subject. He is also famous for debunking other myths like the denial of Global Climate Change and Evolution etc.

Wrong about what else you say? You mean how the Republicans have given up on repealing"Obama Care"?

"Mitch McConnell Declares Surrender on Obamacare"
http://www.redstate.com/2013/03/18/mitch-mcconnell-declares-surrender-on-obamacare/

What, you think that the Republicans will stand-up against Obama for the Pharma business (who by-the-way, people hate as much or more than bankers) and protect you against slashing the cost of drugs bought by the US Govt and also increasing taxes by agreeing to portions of Obama;s budget?

"GOP Senator: Republicans Are Open To Tax Increases In Grand Bargain"

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/03/17/1731581/corker-gop-senator-open-to-tax-increases/

You don't think that Joe Jimenez doesn't want to get rid of you and would use an opportunity provided by regulations imposed on everyone, across the board, to do so inder to keep from "unilateral disarmament"?

Mr. Jimenez: "We don't stop delivery of lifesaving drugs, but price cuts create a disincentive for us to build sales force."

Mr. Jimenez: "The industry needs to spend more money on R&D and less on sales and marketing. In the past two decades, a lot of the value creation came from sales and marketing muscles for new drugs."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323635504578213801060673708.html

And you don't agree with the analysis above regarding the effects on R&D and the reduction in the need for a sales force above that has been in every study of the US sales force when these chages occur and is, by-the-way, the way it is in the rest of the world?

Maybe you should broaden your base of knowledge a bit. You will have plenty of time to do so after you no longer have a job in pharma sales because of all the upcoming changes?
 




Re: Ending Pharma as we no know it - Republicans starting to get on-board wtih Obama

"nye" was meant to be in quotations and capitalized, as you did in your comments, to allude to "Bill Nye the Science Guy" who has a famous set of YouTube videos on the subject. He is also famous for debunking other myths like the denial of Global Climate Change and Evolution etc.

Wrong about what else you say? You mean how the Republicans have given up on repealing"Obama Care"?

"Mitch McConnell Declares Surrender on Obamacare"
http://www.redstate.com/2013/03/18/mitch-mcconnell-declares-surrender-on-obamacare/

What, you think that the Republicans will stand-up against Obama for the Pharma business (who by-the-way, people hate as much or more than bankers) and protect you against slashing the cost of drugs bought by the US Govt and also increasing taxes by agreeing to portions of Obama;s budget?

"GOP Senator: Republicans Are Open To Tax Increases In Grand Bargain"

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/03/17/1731581/corker-gop-senator-open-to-tax-increases/

You don't think that Joe Jimenez doesn't want to get rid of you and would use an opportunity provided by regulations imposed on everyone, across the board, to do so inder to keep from "unilateral disarmament"?

Mr. Jimenez: "We don't stop delivery of lifesaving drugs, but price cuts create a disincentive for us to build sales force."

Mr. Jimenez: "The industry needs to spend more money on R&D and less on sales and marketing. In the past two decades, a lot of the value creation came from sales and marketing muscles for new drugs."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323635504578213801060673708.html

And you don't agree with the analysis above regarding the effects on R&D and the reduction in the need for a sales force above that has been in every study of the US sales force when these chages occur and is, by-the-way, the way it is in the rest of the world?

Maybe you should broaden your base of knowledge a bit. You will have plenty of time to do so after you no longer have a job in pharma sales because of all the upcoming changes?

First thing we SHOULD do is cut 50% of field force, and supplant them with contract reps. C'mon, let's be honest. Standing in a hallway for 18 minutes hoping to spit out some BS canned message for 50 seconds and getting a signature is hardly worth the salary/bennie package most of us make. Besides, Managed care dictates treatment algorithms, for the most part.

R&D? OK, name 3 products our R&D has churned out in the past 8 years.

BUT HEAR THIS: ACCOUNTABLE CARE ORGS WILL FORCE GENERICS TO THE FRONT!! Now that docs will get a share of profits, they will be more aggressive in pushing prevention and generics. By the time that pharma gets hip to that move, it'll be too late.

You've been warned.
 




Re: Ending Pharma as we no know it - Republicans starting to get on-board wtih Obama

First thing we SHOULD do is cut 50% of field force, and supplant them with contract reps. C'mon, let's be honest. Standing in a hallway for 18 minutes hoping to spit out some BS canned message for 50 seconds and getting a signature is hardly worth the salary/bennie package most of us make. Besides, Managed care dictates treatment algorithms, for the most part.

R&D? OK, name 3 products our R&D has churned out in the past 8 years.

BUT HEAR THIS: ACCOUNTABLE CARE ORGS WILL FORCE GENERICS TO THE FRONT!! Now that docs will get a share of profits, they will be more aggressive in pushing prevention and generics. By the time that pharma gets hip to that move, it'll be too late.

You've been warned.

All good points. Medicare Part D has only been around since 2003, and has been the major driver of Medicare expenditures. Whomever comes up with great preventative care models for various disease states may do very well in the future.
 




Re: Ending Pharma as we no know it - Republicans starting to get on-board wtih Obama

First thing we SHOULD do is cut 50% of field force, and supplant them with contract reps. C'mon, let's be honest. Standing in a hallway for 18 minutes hoping to spit out some BS canned message for 50 seconds and getting a signature is hardly worth the salary/bennie package most of us make. Besides, Managed care dictates treatment algorithms, for the most part.

R&D? OK, name 3 products our R&D has churned out in the past 8 years.

BUT HEAR THIS: ACCOUNTABLE CARE ORGS WILL FORCE GENERICS TO THE FRONT!! Now that docs will get a share of profits, they will be more aggressive in pushing prevention and generics. By the time that pharma gets hip to that move, it'll be too late.

You've been warned.

R&D? Read the post above. I agree, the profession that I am currently in is short for this world. We ain't gone next year but 5? I think that we will be lucky if Pharma sales has 25% of the positions that it has now and the total package comp will be 75% of todays.