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I won't keep doing this. Contract work, despite that some Kool-Aid drinkers will tell you that it's the "future of industry", is no way to advance a career and, really, no way to live your life. The Pharma industry in general is in decline as it sheds more jobs every year than it adds, and contract work is temp work that comes with inherent insecurity. You never know how long a contract will go, contracts end suddenly, and you're always working with that uncertainty in your mind. Over the years, your resume looks choppy and you've had to endure the stress of periods of unemployment and arduous job searches. I'm done.
 






anonymous said:
I won't keep doing this. Contract work, despite that some Kool-Aid drinkers will tell you that it's the "future of industry", is no way to advance a career and, really, no way to live your life. The Pharma industry in general is in decline as it sheds more jobs every year than it adds, and contract work is temp work that comes with inherent insecurity. You never know how long a contract will go, contracts end suddenly, and you're always working with that uncertainty in your mind. Over the years, your resume looks choppy and you've had to endure the stress of periods of unemployment and arduous job searches. I'm done.
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bye.
 












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Which has better quality jobs, Publicis or PDI?
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They are both one in the same now. PDI/Publicis is considered to be the low cost contract company which means they pay employees the least just to get the contracts. Contract used to be the place to be IF you already had 10-20 years in Pharma w/ a manufacture and didn't mind making less money. It was the place were tenured Reps went to ride off into the sunset and still utilize their experience. You made the calls, did a few lunches, there wasn't much lunch money then, maybe $300-500 per month and you were done. Managers were easy going and a w/w was maybe 1 call and go to lunch then it was over. The bottom line is if you just made the calls and spent the lunch money and communicated it was a dream job.

Somewhere in the last 5 years, the contract companies began to sell the employee out. Servitude and indentured servants became the norm. The sales people were handed over to the contract manufacture DM to do what they wanted to the contract employee. The lines were blurred and the troubles began, the contract companies turned their heads and let the bad treatment of reps begin. Contract reps were required to do the same job if not more than the Manufacture Representative, why, because the manufacture knew they could get away w/ it. In many cases the contract rep was used as a training dummy for the new manufacture DM where the contract rep would get condescending treatment but the DM would treat the manufacture Reps very nicely. This still goes on.

Don't ever fall for the LINE companies will roll you in or it's a stepping stone. It's the furthest thing from it if you are a new Rep because you will be labeled "Contract Rep". It shouldn't matter but it happens.

Bottom line, contract is not a good choice anymore for job security and mental stability. You will have neither in contract. If that is the way you want to live it's for you.
 






anonymous said:
They are both one in the same now. PDI/Publicis is considered to be the low cost contract company which means they pay employees the least just to get the contracts. Contract used to be the place to be IF you already had 10-20 years in Pharma w/ a manufacture and didn't mind making less money. It was the place were tenured Reps went to ride off into the sunset and still utilize their experience. You made the calls, did a few lunches, there wasn't much lunch money then, maybe $300-500 per month and you were done. Managers were easy going and a w/w was maybe 1 call and go to lunch then it was over. The bottom line is if you just made the calls and spent the lunch money and communicated it was a dream job.

Somewhere in the last 5 years, the contract companies began to sell the employee out. Servitude and indentured servants became the norm. The sales people were handed over to the contract manufacture DM to do what they wanted to the contract employee. The lines were blurred and the troubles began, the contract companies turned their heads and let the bad treatment of reps begin. Contract reps were required to do the same job if not more than the Manufacture Representative, why, because the manufacture knew they could get away w/ it. In many cases the contract rep was used as a training dummy for the new manufacture DM where the contract rep would get condescending treatment but the DM would treat the manufacture Reps very nicely. This still goes on.

Don't ever fall for the LINE companies will roll you in or it's a stepping stone. It's the furthest thing from it if you are a new Rep because you will be labeled "Contract Rep". It shouldn't matter but it happens.

Bottom line, contract is not a good choice anymore for job security and mental stability. You will have neither in contract. If that is the way you want to live it's for you.
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Another point of view....contract is OK if manufacturer has NO in house reps. In this case you are valued. If the company has a strong pipeline this could add stability and longevity by rolling you to new products with an extension of the same contract. Otherwise expect a short and probably unstable job. Especially so if you are a backfill. Low pay but at least it keeps you working..

Trouble is for experienced people moving from contract back to a real job again. You may be faced with difficulty getting an offer or getting back to the higher pay you built over years as a manufacturers rep.
 






anonymous said:
They are both one in the same now. PDI/Publicis is considered to be the low cost contract company which means they pay employees the least just to get the contracts. Contract used to be the place to be IF you already had 10-20 years in Pharma w/ a manufacture and didn't mind making less money. It was the place were tenured Reps went to ride off into the sunset and still utilize their experience. You made the calls, did a few lunches, there wasn't much lunch money then, maybe $300-500 per month and you were done. Managers were easy going and a w/w was maybe 1 call and go to lunch then it was over. The bottom line is if you just made the calls and spent the lunch money and communicated it was a dream job.

Somewhere in the last 5 years, the contract companies began to sell the employee out. Servitude and indentured servants became the norm. The sales people were handed over to the contract manufacture DM to do what they wanted to the contract employee. The lines were blurred and the troubles began, the contract companies turned their heads and let the bad treatment of reps begin. Contract reps were required to do the same job if not more than the Manufacture Representative, why, because the manufacture knew they could get away w/ it. In many cases the contract rep was used as a training dummy for the new manufacture DM where the contract rep would get condescending treatment but the DM would treat the manufacture Reps very nicely. This still goes on.

Don't ever fall for the LINE companies will roll you in or it's a stepping stone. It's the furthest thing from it if you are a new Rep because you will be labeled "Contract Rep". It shouldn't matter but it happens.

Bottom line, contract is not a good choice anymore for job security and mental stability. You will have neither in contract. If that is the way you want to live it's for you.
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Now some of the Managers are RCs, ie (Administrative Assistant to the Manufacture DM), This is the position. No w/w/, approve expense accounts and make 6 Figures. Sit at home and collect checks...no responsibility, no quota just work a few hours a week.
 






Always good to know about these jobs, they're all different ...some are gyps and some are gems..

Some cso jobs can translate into busting ' yer butt and not gettin' credit.Thus the tale of the :eek: rcso rep$,.

Yep.....you bust yer bottom for real rep jobs ..but at least yer can pay yer bills....
 






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