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I'm a little nervous about the whole thing. I read the company board for Avanir and it's not promising. I don't know why they kept the company and product a secret for so long either?
 






I had 3 former coworkers work for Avanir. We all got laid off from a downsizing. They were all completely miserable. Unless you are desparate, I would stay far away. There is a reason why they weren't telling you who the company was. Do you really want to sell a product to stop uncontrollable laughing???? Lots of turnover w/Avanir.
 












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I'm a little nervous about the whole thing. I read the company board for Avanir and it's not promising. I don't know why they kept the company and product a secret for so long either?
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Publicis has lots of secrets. As an example, I responded to the above quote a few hours ago. My response was deleted. I said that the upper management at Publicis is all from the Consumer division of Wyeth. They never sold anything. They handed out Tylenol. I also said that they try to hide this fact because it is so embarrassing. They deleted my response. You "management" people never sold a drug in your lives. You may have co-marketed a few but your beloved Tylenol is what got you in the door. The only reason Publicis got this shit contract in the first place is because they low ball the bids.
 






Anonymous said:
Publicis has lots of secrets. As an example, I responded to the above quote a few hours ago. My response was deleted. I said that the upper management at Publicis is all from the Consumer division of Wyeth. They never sold anything. They handed out Tylenol. I also said that they try to hide this fact because it is so embarrassing. They deleted my response. You "management" people never sold a drug in your lives. You may have co-marketed a few but your beloved Tylenol is what got you in the door. The only reason Publicis got this shit contract in the first place is because they low ball the bids.
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First of all Wyeth never made Tylenol. Second you have an upper management person I know from Wyeth who is from the pharmaceutical side, not consumer. Get your facts straight.
 






Who is the idiot talking Tylenol crap? If you want to be technical Ofirmev now sells Tylenol. And this is a questionable contract. I interviewed last year with company and ran away fast. Unprofessional.
 






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First of all Wyeth never made Tylenol. Second you have an upper management person I know from Wyeth who is from the pharmaceutical side, not consumer. Get your facts straight.
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I think THE POINT being made was that these people in management for the most part come from the consumer division of Wyeth. Wyeth "sales reps" used to distribute Advil, which is a very difficult layered sale. hahaha Since you want to argue, you can argue about which OTC product rather than the actual message in the post. I know for a fact that several upper management are from Wyeth on the consumer side. Just Google the names. It's that easy. Did the post hit a nerve with you?
 






Anonymous said:
I think THE POINT being made was that these people in management for the most part come from the consumer division of Wyeth. Wyeth "sales reps" used to distribute Advil, which is a very difficult layered sale. hahaha Since you want to argue, you can argue about which OTC product rather than the actual message in the post. I know for a fact that several upper management are from Wyeth on the consumer side. Just Google the names. It's that easy. Did the post hit a nerve with you?
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The upper management with Wyeth all have very little pharma sales experience or management experience outside of Wyeth.
 






It’s all about ties to Wyeth. Mike Whitehead, Lori Gay and David Olson all formerly Wyeth now Publicis. Joel Forhan & Chris Speller who are both from King which was bought out by Pfizer, who also bought Wyeth. See the pattern?
 






This is going to be another Publicis nightmare contract just like the Duchesnay contract has become. All of the contracts now are from companies that have become desperate to sell their me-too. The Duchesnay reps were lied to about the salary, and especially the bonus potential. UCB was ending a year early. This contract will be the same. Think twice unless you are desperate as well.

I left about a year ago and landed in big pharma. Yes, the crap is non-stop here too, but at least I have a decent salary, company car/gas card, and a reasonable bonus program. Keep looking guys.
 






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It’s all about ties to Wyeth. Mike Whitehead, Lori Gay and David Olson all formerly Wyeth now Publicis. Joel Forhan & Chris Speller who are both from King which was bought out by Pfizer, who also bought Wyeth. See the pattern?
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Mark Sobray, Rick Keifer are both from THE CONSUMER DIVISION OF WYETH. No wonder this company can only get crappy contracts other than AZ. The only reason they got those is because they low balled beyond what any other company would accept. This company is also famous for hiring people who were fired or engaged in lawsuits with their previous companies for inappropriate behavior. They all hire eachother because no one else will hire them. When Wyeth folded, they all tried to make it on their own but couldn't because they have no real talent. Google it. I couldn't make this shit up if I tried. Now they are all back home with Mommy at the Wyeth substitute know as Publicis.
 
























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