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How is everyone else doing with Depodur? It is not being well received in my territory. I have been hearing a lot of my Doctors had a bad experience when it was first launched and they won't try it again.
 






Depends. Some really want to try it, but don't have the nursing staff to support any change in patient monitoring procedures. Others were dosing it too high (15mg and >) and are not willing to try it at lower doses. Burn me once shame on you, burn me twice shame on me theory. Nursing staff can make or break DepoDur, so outcomes usually depend on how resistant the nurses are to making any changes. It takes control out of the their and the patient's hands and they don't always like the loss of control. Some hospitals are taking off with it, so it depends on the area your in...
 






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Depends. Some really want to try it, but don't have the nursing staff to support any change in patient monitoring procedures. Others were dosing it too high (15mg and >) and are not willing to try it at lower doses. Burn me once shame on you, burn me twice shame on me theory. Nursing staff can make or break DepoDur, so outcomes usually depend on how resistant the nurses are to making any changes. It takes control out of the their and the patient's hands and they don't always like the loss of control. Some hospitals are taking off with it, so it depends on the area your in...
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Problem is that duramorph and astramorph are significantly less cost and anesthesia does not mind redosing every 12 or 24 hours. They are pharmacologists and usually are contracted to the hospitals. If they increase pharmacy cost, the hospital can say we will get another group that will provide anesthesia at cheaper cost. This is the true problem that howie did not due his due diligence on. Depodur will only succeed if the price comes down 20% sorry ,but it is the reality in my territory.
 


















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Problem is that duramorph and astramorph are significantly less cost and anesthesia does not mind redosing every 12 or 24 hours. They are pharmacologists and usually are contracted to the hospitals. If they increase pharmacy cost, the hospital can say we will get another group that will provide anesthesia at cheaper cost. This is the true problem that howie did not due his due diligence on. Depodur will only succeed if the price comes down 20% sorry ,but it is the reality in my territory.
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It's not all about cost. The ortho docs don't care about it, they want their pts to be pain free. Pharmacists don't want it, anesth doesn't want it because it makes them "change" the way they usually do things, but I have found that ortho wants it. Try going there first, they are the ones that bring in money for the hospital anyway so they carry a lot more weight than the Anesth MD's do. I've heard that there are a lot of reps in the company now that really don't want to sell DepoDur - they should leave because its going to be around for awhile, but if you really do want to sell it - talk to some of the people that used to be with Endo. They have had luck with it and are willing to help out anyone who WANTS to sell it.
 






Word on the old "Endo" reps are that they are questioning their move over to EKR and banked their pitch to EKR on "Oh, just follow us we can show you how to sell Depodud blah blah. Yes, you did have "luck" selling/giving it away but now the sales and growth numbers are telling the real story now....
 






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Word on the old "Endo" reps are that they are questioning their move over to EKR and banked their pitch to EKR on "Oh, just follow us we can show you how to sell Depodud blah blah. Yes, you did have "luck" selling/giving it away but now the sales and growth numbers are telling the real story now....
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What's wrong with you? You must be one sorry, miserable ass.
 






Whoever posted that Anesthesiologists are pharmacologists has no clue. I am an Anesthesiologist, we are medical doctors specializing in Anesthesiology. We - not the ortho docs- are the ones usually responsible for pain relief and are the ones that want the patients out of pain...it is what we do. The problem with ANY epidrual morphine is hypotension, pruritis, and respiratory depression. None of these problems exist with regional anesthetic techniques. In our group we place peripheral nerve block catheters which work very well without the side effects.
 






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