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CVS No Longer sending IMS Data!

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CVS, which fills about 1 billion prescriptions a year, was sued last month by IMS Health Inc. in Delaware Chancery Court for allegedly violating contracts to supply drug-sales data. IMS, which didn’t disclose contract terms, collects data from pharmacies for use by drug companies, marketers, and government agencies for research, sales and compliance.

The case is Arthur Steinberg v. CVS Caremark Corp. (CVS), 1103012286, Court of Common Pleas of Philadelphia County.

Hey Lilly--Would this explain why my SOM dropped so much in Feb???

Just Askin!
 








CVS, which fills about 1 billion prescriptions a year, was sued last month by IMS Health Inc. in Delaware Chancery Court for allegedly violating contracts to supply drug-sales data. IMS, which didn’t disclose contract terms, collects data from pharmacies for use by drug companies, marketers, and government agencies for research, sales and compliance.

The case is Arthur Steinberg v. CVS Caremark Corp. (CVS), 1103012286, Court of Common Pleas of Philadelphia County.

Hey Lilly--Would this explain why my SOM dropped so much in Feb???

Just Askin!

If Lilly realy "Cared" they would credit the reps on both DDD (by zip) and what remains of the old IMS (point of origin) systems.

Ol'Timer
 




























What is wrong with you people? We don't need CVS. We don't need almost any of them. IMS brainiacs can do an algorithm on pharmacy scripts with only a handfull of accounts and still make it work. Their accuracy is now down to having to require only 24% of pharmacies reporting to make the numbers come out. If your numbers dropped like a rock, it's probably because you have a lousy attitude or don't really know how to sell, not because of the data we get.
Quit complaining about the numbers and get to work, you lazy bastards.
 




thank you Mr IMS

for those non-believers like me. I think we should toss our all this smoke and mirrors B.S. and go back to DDD. Why should only Lilly get paid when WalMart, CVS and countless independant pharmacies buy our products? Reps should get credit too! DDD nade this happen much more accurately that IMS ever did...or will.
 




thank you Mr IMS

for those non-believers like me. I think we should toss our all this smoke and mirrors B.S. and go back to DDD. Why should only Lilly get paid when WalMart, CVS and countless independant pharmacies buy our products? Reps should get credit too! DDD nade this happen much more accurately that IMS ever did...or will.

Our Six Sigma study tells us that IMS allows us to divert more $$$ away from wasteful worker bee paychecks and into John's compensation package. This allows John to get the most bang for his buck.
 




Our Six Sigma study tells us that IMS allows us to divert more $$$ away from wasteful worker bee paychecks and into John's compensation package. This allows John to get the most bang for his buck.

Clearly, the use of Six Sigma Champions to Spearhead Important Discussion at a WorkTeam Level Company Wide has Resulted in Unsurpassed Headcount Reductions and First Time Record Productivity Gains on an Ongoing Basis. Productivity Gains Peak throughout the Year, but Mostly just Prior to Interim and Annual PM Statistical Compilation
 




thank you Mr IMS

for those non-believers like me. I think we should toss our all this smoke and mirrors B.S. and go back to DDD. Why should only Lilly get paid when WalMart, CVS and countless independant pharmacies buy our products? Reps should get credit too! DDD nade this happen much more accurately that IMS ever did...or will.

So true!
 





Agreed, but we live in a world at Lilly where the rule makers never have to live by their own silly rules and processes. They think up this stuff in a conference run, without any significant real life experience. It looks good on the dry erase board, but doesn't hold water in the real world. They can't see the illogic in their ideas because if doesn't fit their flawed understanding of the real world.
 





Agreed, but we live in a world at Lilly where the rule makers never have to live by their own silly rules and processes. They think up this stuff in a conference room, without any significant real life experience. It looks good on the dry erase board, but doesn't hold water in the real world. They can't see the illogic in their ideas because if doesn't fit their flawed understanding of the real world.
 




Clearly, the use of Six Sigma Champions to Spearhead Important Discussion at a WorkTeam Level Company Wide has Resulted in Unsurpassed Headcount Reductions and First Time Record Productivity Gains on an Ongoing Basis. Productivity Gains Peak throughout the Year, but Mostly just Prior to Interim and Annual PM Statistical Compilation

Yayyy!!!!
 




Yayyy!!!!

We are never going to get CVS data!

Researcher Renews CVS Fight Over Prescription Data

LinkedIn By Lance Duroni
Law360, New York (April 28, 2011) -- IMS Health Inc. has renewed its claims against CVS Caremark Corp. for allegedly breaching contracts to provide the market research firm with prescription data, according to a lawsuit unsealed Wednesday in Delaware.

CVS, the largest prescription provider in the U.S., has not lived up to a settlement of previous litigation reached in March between the two companies whereby CVS agreed to resume supplying the data, “thus necessitating this follow-on action,” IMS said in a heavily redacted complaint originally filed April 15.

The original suit, filed in February, said CVS was bound by three separate contracts to provide the data, without which IMS did not have a representative sample of the prescription market on which to base its research. The companies entered into an undisclosed settlement agreement and related reinstatement agreement March 7 and the lawsuit was dismissed, according to court documents.

“IMS has made repeated attempts, without success, to persuade defendants to honor their obligations and to avoid further litigation,” the complaint said.

Norwalk, Conn.-based IMS uses the prescription data to create reports that are vital to drug recall programs, academic and medical researchers, law enforcement authorities, health agencies and pharmaceutical distributors, according to the suit.

The data compiled by IMS for its reports on individual prescription sales include information about the prescriber; the dosage and quantity of the product; the cost of the drug and who paid for it; and the age and gender of the patient, though names are not disclosed. The firm also compiles information on the wholesale purchases made by the pharmacy itself, according to the complaint.

The lawsuit seeks specific performance under the settlement agreement and damages.

David R. Marriott of Cravath Swaine & Moore LLP, an attorney for IMS, said at a Feb. 14 hearing that IMS’s competitors were attempting to take advantage of the hole in its research, contacting the firm’s customers to provide replacement data, according to a transcript of the proceeding.

“We need the data. We can’t get the data from anywhere else. And we have a contractual right to the data, period,” William M. Lafferty of Morris Nichols Arsht & Tunnell LLP, another IMS attorney, said at the hearing.

A representative for CVS did not immediately respond to a request for comment Wednesday.

Founded in 1954, IMS is “the world’s leading provider of information, research, and analysis to the pharmaceutical and healthcare industries, with data collection and reporting activities in more than 100 countries,” according to the complaint.

CVS is one of the country's largest pharmacy benefits managers, with a network of more than 64,000 pharmacies.

CVS is represented by Gregory V. Varallo and Scott W. Perkins of Richards Layton & Finger PA and Foley & Lardner LLP is of counsel.

IMS is represented by Leslie A. Polizoti and William M. Lafferty of Morris Nichols Arsht & Tunnell LLP and Cravath Swaine & Moore LLP is of counsel.

The current case is IMS Health Inc. v. CVS Pharmacy Inc. et al., case number 6388, in the Delaware Court of Chancery.

The settled case is IMS Health Inc. v. Caremark LLC et al., case number 6174, in the same court.

--Editing by Eydie Cubarrubia.