RT and clan still hiding in the shadows while sending their people to the gallows? Worked for the company several years back...by far the most inept group of managers I have seen in my career. HR just as bad...no handle on Specialty and spend most of time managing the employment turnstile. Sales reps are good solid citizens biding time for the economy to turn. AH still with the company?
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Nobody cares about SP, Caremark or others, they are just corporate piss boys for the pharmaceutical industry. They are bottom feeding parasites that do not even have a job without a biologic or compound.
anybody know Michelle Sexton who leads the transplant team? have interview coming up> Any prep tips. Never sold a service before but have med device, and specialty pharma experience.
I was encouraged to go on here and read about caremark, despite already have taken the tse position with them. although i was encouraged this would be a "great stepping stone to get out of pharma/pushing pills" I am starting to resent that move. bottom line, there is NOT ONE OUNCE of positivity in our division(i'd rather not say where but it's not oncology) I heard Oncology VP is a huge believer in motivating his people, team building and keeping a positive environment. I cannot stand the lack of urgency, organization(another tse shared that he's assisted in getting the last 15 reps up and running and a single rep had a pleasant, nor positive, experience.) this is due mostly, for me, to the lack of support from my manager (who quite frankly is the worst manager out of the 8 I've had in my career) he has no sense of urgency, no positive feedback...I'm open to some coaching points. for the love of God give me some reason to respect you. his passion is like subzero weather. it's quite a shame b/c at the the end of the day this job could be a lot of fun. Unlike specialty pharma, this company puts as much focus on 6 excel spreadsheets(a lot of which are redundant info) then making sure their people are in front of their customers selling. admin and selling is 50/50 focus, versus 20-30%admin and 70% time in front of customers. it's a shame and i've watched reps drop like flies due to all the above. I'm regretting taking this position,...the only thing keeping me hanging on is our national director is energetic and encouraging... at least that's been my experience. these geographies are way too large to enable us to have the frequency to "our big guys" required to build that solid relationship we all know is half the battle.
best of luck to all...i'm in limbo if i'm staying or going to start interviewing. this culture is just way to unhealthy and disorganized for me
best of luck to all...i'm in limbo if i'm staying or going to start interviewing. this culture is just way to unhealthy and disorganized for me
I guess I understand the frustration but it seems like you're putting way too many of your emotions on other people. If you want 70% customer contact then do it. If your admin load is large do it while you're traveling. If you're that passionate and motivated then go for it regardless of what your manager does. You've got a resource who apparently understands, go there when you need a boost. How long have you been out of pharma?
out of big pharma only 3 months. was with the same wonderful company for 9yrs. I like that i don't have national meetings with days of roleplaying, lack of resources(here it's spend spend spend and do dinners like mad. take md's nurses etc out to lunch etc) so no pharma guidelines is a plus. manager has gotten a "tad bit" better...not much. but i think he knows I'm upset. I'm onto my 3rd interview with Alcon/CIBA division...and 3rd with Bausch and Lomb ..figure it doesn't hurt to "talk" even if they aren't good moves...just seeing what's out there. I know Alcon/NOvartis is a solid place to be, low turnover etc. but you have a good point. just see customers and make it happen. I have a lot to sort out b/c , yes, a lot of emotions going on here. bottom line..it's like a bad breakup from my other company. phenomenal dm's, rm's vp's, supportive and i just don't know if I"ll have that again. 
thx for your advice !
thx for your advice !
out of big pharma only 3 months. was with the same wonderful company for 9yrs. I like that i don't have national meetings with days of roleplaying, lack of resources(here it's spend spend spend and do dinners like mad. take md's nurses etc out to lunch etc) so no pharma guidelines is a plus. manager has gotten a "tad bit" better...not much. but i think he knows I'm upset. I'm onto my 3rd interview with Alcon/CIBA division...and 3rd with Bausch and Lomb ..figure it doesn't hurt to "talk" even if they aren't good moves...just seeing what's out there. I know Alcon/NOvartis is a solid place to be, low turnover etc. but you have a good point. just see customers and make it happen. I have a lot to sort out b/c , yes, a lot of emotions going on here. bottom line..it's like a bad breakup from my other company. phenomenal dm's, rm's vp's, supportive and i just don't know if I"ll have that again.
thx for your advice !
What division are you in? I just accepted a sales position myself, but with a lot of concern. (needed a job). The guy who will be my manager comes across as being ice cold with little passion or enthusiasm so I can only imagine what it will be like when I get up and running. Wondering if your experience is about to be mine.
Congratulations a job in this economy is something to celebrate! Hope you are not working for KK and CW as they represent all that is wrong with this third tier organization. Make sure you inquire regarding tenure and turnover. It is a real problem here. I also agree with other posters, start looking for next opportunity now. This is the significant other that will never change.
Does anyone use this company? I had nothing but problems the few times we were forced to use this organization. The reps are nice enough but the system sucks. Takes twice as long for patients to get their meds.
My experience has been that it depends what part of the country you are located. I hear great things about them in some regions and nothing but complaints in others. I tend to stick to the smaller specialty pharmacies who will cater their services to what I need.
In what parts of the country have you heard "great" things? In my area it's all bad. They've grown too big for their own good.
C Walsh is the man-hater still in the business? Probably lurking in the shadows waiting for RT to make that big mistake. She is a miserable old bitch!
C. Walsh is far from a b#tch. She's the only positive thing here!! KK is still demotivating and needs to take classes on how to motivate our team. it's ridiculous how he's a manager. I don't understand it. He's nice and all but the other day is a prime example! as i said in a previous post, culture here is so demotivating. I didn't get the jobs with those 2 companies but I'm continuing to search, as KK and the culture here has taken a serious toll on me. the admin is "busy work" and I'd rather be back in pharma. maybe it's b/c i was there for 9yrs. who knows. for now, my customers,peers and CW keep me going!
What is your salary and bonus like compared to your Big Pharma job? Just remember, jobs in pharma are scarce and there is no longer any security. It's interesting you mentioned that Novartis is stable, as they are gearing up for massive layoffs now. I just want you to realize that you may be romanticizing the pharmaceutical industry based on the uncomfortability of your new position. I think it may be uncomfortable because it is new and different. What are the differences in your calls like? Do you have reach and frequency?
Do not consider Alcon/Novartis. The lost a 250 million dollar lawsuit for descrimination for women last year.They cut 1500 in sales last year, cutting 2000 this April, just lost a 99 million dollar lawsuit to sales reps for "over time pay", and lost several other multi-million dollar lawsuits in the last year. They are looking to cut.
C W is your idea of motivating and competent? Please get help, you have lost touch with reality. Maybe your experience is different if you don't possess a penis. Wait until she sharpens that knife. Sleep with one eye open RT.
RT gone??? Maybe I'll come back. He's the sole reason I left.
Ding Dong the witch is dead. the witch is dead...my bad RT gone, witch still there.