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I saw there are some posts on this division but nothing really recent. My questions are, is it a good division/job (what are positives and negatives), do you think I can make 150+ in my 2nd or 3rd year, can I make 190K+ in my 4th year plus. I am thinking about interviewing for this gig but I have a pretty easy medical equipment job where I am making 120-140k a year, problem is there is no growth opportunity beyond that for either income or advancement. The way the recruiter described it to me was "surgical solutions supply" and said it was called syneture? I want to make sure I have the right division that I am zeroing in on. Thank you, please let me know your thoughts.
 






Syneture is the suture division. You'll be playing from behind in that division - Ethicon has the majority of the business with contracts and surgeon preference. When you have to play the price game to get your product in, that's never a good sign.
 












Syneture is the suture division. You'll be playing from behind in that division - Ethicon has the majority of the business with contracts and surgeon preference. When you have to play the price game to get your product in, that's never a good sign.

Interesting, so I would be selling staplers,trocars,sutures? So I guess this is under the Surgical Solutions umbrella but I wouldn't sell any of the cool less commoditized stuff?

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Okay, so what I'm getting is commoditized, somewhat old technology and gpo driven. But, that being said, is it a job where I can go and be at for a while ramping it up to 170-200k? If that is the case it would be a significant income boost from where I am now. But if there is other hair then that could change the equation as well. Thanks for the feedback so far, appreciate it.
 






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Okay, so what I'm getting is commoditized, somewhat old technology and gpo driven. But, that being said, is it a job where I can go and be at for a while ramping it up to 170-200k? If that is the case it would be a significant income boost from where I am now. But if there is other hair then that could change the equation as well. Thanks for the feedback so far, appreciate it.
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No-never. 170-200K is completely unrealistic. 125K maybe. Compensation for all medical/hospital/healthcare sales is being driven downward. In 5-10 years there won't be any reps.
 






You'll be servicing trocars, suture, clips, cautery pencils and other commodity products. If you want to sell the new whiz bang stuff this isn't where you want to be. The division use to be called "surgical supplies" but the name was demeaning to the reps and managers so they changed it to General Surgical Products.

Regarding your question about compensation, think about it. Does Covidien (or soon to be Medtronic) need to pay someone a six figure income to go around and service (not sell) commodity items that are sold at the GPO level?

Good training ground for a newby to the industry. If you show aptitude, you can get promoted into one of the better divisions or move on to a better company.
 






Got it, thanks for the feedback. Sounds like I am better off staying put. Damn it's hard to get a substantially better gig from a middle of the road, not very clinical medical capital job...
 






One thing to remember is the good old days of $200k are long gone for mos companies. You ask about 150k+ 2nd year. Can happen if you do well. Where's the territory currently at? Why is it open? Past years' performances?

No company tells you real numbers anymore. 190k plus...you need game changing technology or some good conversions.

If you want numbers like that Acclarent, St. Jude, Intuitive and Accuray are options. Problem there is those people are not moving on to something better because there really isn't much to move up to financially.
 






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No-never. 170-200K is completely unrealistic. 125K maybe. Compensation for all medical/hospital/healthcare sales is being driven downward. In 5-10 years there won't be any reps.
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Bingo! Outside of highly technical product categories, teams of modestly paid reps to provide basic in servicing is all that will be needed. Why on earth would you need to pay a "Sales Rep" over $100k to "sell" something that's already been sold at the GPO level? Covidien (soon to be Medtronic) Surgical Supplies or GSP is a perfect example of where this will and should happen.
 












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Bingo! Outside of highly technical product categories, teams of modestly paid reps to provide basic in servicing is all that will be needed. Why on earth would you need to pay a "Sales Rep" over $100k to "sell" something that's already been sold at the GPO level? Covidien (soon to be Medtronic) Surgical Supplies or GSP is a perfect example of where this will and should happen.
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The only thing sold at the GPO level is a discount. If that's all it took, you would see usage flip the minute the GPO contract was signed.
 


















Anonymous said:
I saw there are some posts on this division but nothing really recent. My questions are, is it a good division/job (what are positives and negatives), do you think I can make 150+ in my 2nd or 3rd year, can I make 190K+ in my 4th year plus. I am thinking about interviewing for this gig but I have a pretty easy medical equipment job where I am making 120-140k a year, problem is there is no growth opportunity beyond that for either income or advancement. The way the recruiter described it to me was "surgical solutions supply" and said it was called syneture? I want to make sure I have the right division that I am zeroing in on. Thank you, please let me know your thoughts.
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this is the "field conversion specialist" position with 121% travel living in airports and hotels for weeks right ?? (im bout that life already)... and youre supporting 100 reps nationwide.80k total comp, full bens and expenses, sick comped whip..did you get the same numbers too ? only question I really have is are there any heaters (I prefer brunettes with +2s) that I should know about/look forward to meating across the US or should I turn down the interview and maybe look into the smoke over at say Boston Sci or stryker....
 






Anonymous said:
this is the "field conversion specialist" position with 121% travel living in airports and hotels for weeks right ?? (im bout that life already)... and youre supporting 100 reps nationwide.80k total comp, full bens and expenses, sick comped whip..did you get the same numbers too ? only question I really have is are there any heaters (I prefer brunettes with +2s) that I should know about/look forward to meating across the US or should I turn down the interview and maybe look into the smoke over at say Boston Sci or stryker....
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You'll need to go back and get your GED, then maybe you can find a job digging ditches.
 


















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The responder is dead on. I would only add that you need to move out of your grandmother's basement first & stop watching so much porn.
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you know what, i just realized the COV culture is all average dorks like the guys responding, my urban lingo must be 'too much' for you basic nerds and dorkettes over there and a normal linkedin search just proves the culture aesthetics are just average, bunch of basic broads anyway. I ill just take my MBA (masters in biceps and abs) to the top jock lovin players in the ortho game. I don't want to be the only one sharing bizarre sexcapades stories with thirsty hospital broads at expensed work dinners with a bunch of oofy toads like you covidien nerds anyways, get in where u fit in!
 






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