Covidien for someone getting to MD sales?

[Anonymous]

I'm about to graduate, I have strong sales experience, with proof ( top 1-3% consistently), and currently making ~$55k working part time from my current employer. I have a good lead into the company, and I can interview pretty well. I have my own business grossing ~$20k, should this be something I put on my resume? This may not be the best place to ask, but I'm young, and I can put up with bullshit, and highly considering getting into med/pharma. A few of the job req's in the area I would apply don't have med experience, what is a realistic full compensation I would expect to make my first year? Neutral feedback is appreciated!

 

[Anonymous]

The likelihood of you getting hired straight out of school is very low. Normally for a company like Covidien/Ethicon, etc you need at least a few years of B2B sales experience. The exception to that would be if you could somehow get into the sales associate program which requires a one year commitment and a move to CT.

My suggestion would be to try and get on with ADP, Pitney Bowes, Xerox, etc for a year or two, then try you luck.

 

[Anonymous]

It may be easier to buy a house next door to CB, CM, or GF. You won't need any sales or management experience to get in.

 

[Anonymous]

I'm about to graduate, I have strong sales experience, with proof ( top 1-3% consistently), and currently making ~$55k working part time from my current employer. I have a good lead into the company, and I can interview pretty well. I have my own business grossing ~$20k, should this be something I put on my resume? This may not be the best place to ask, but I'm young, and I can put up with bullshit, and highly considering getting into med/pharma. A few of the job req's in the area I would apply don't have med experience, what is a realistic full compensation I would expect to make my first year? Neutral feedback is appreciated!

it's hard to break into medical sales (ortho, general, etc.) right out of school (unless you played a sport in college). it can be done. I would try getting a job with a beverage company or a copier company first. that seems to be the route that most people took. good luck

 

[Anonymous]

you might get a shot at a pharma gig with the experience that you are talking about but device will be next to impossible to get into with your background. As stated by others try selling copiers or payroll. Companies are always looking for experience from those 2 industries. Also if you have owned your own business even though it's not grossing a large amount consider developing that instead of device or pharma. Working for yourself vs working for pharma or device is a whole different world. You might make more money in pharma or device but the headache is huge and often times not worth it. If you land a pharma job now reasonable expectations would be 50-80k to start if you land a device job then wide range maybe 70-100k to start give or take.

 

[Anonymous]

you might get a shot at a pharma gig with the experience that you are talking about but device will be next to impossible to get into with your background. As stated by others try selling copiers or payroll. Companies are always looking for experience from those 2 industries. Also if you have owned your own business even though it's not grossing a large amount consider developing that instead of device or pharma. Working for yourself vs working for pharma or device is a whole different world. You might make more money in pharma or device but the headache is huge and often times not worth it. If you land a pharma job now reasonable expectations would be 50-80k to start if you land a device job then wide range maybe 70-100k to start give or take.

Almost doesn't seem worth if my current employer will be paying me over 80k within the next 3 years does it? I'm going to be promoted to a sales manager position in the next few months, would that give me that much higher of a chance? My goal was to land a job that pays over 100k right out of college, otherwise, like you said, I'm better off working on my own company and staying with current employer. Is it tougher to be promoted in med/pharma with a business degree instead of bio/science? Or do numbers speak for themselves?

 

[Anonymous]

Almost doesn't seem worth if my current employer will be paying me over 80k within the next 3 years does it? I'm going to be promoted to a sales manager position in the next few months, would that give me that much higher of a chance? My goal was to land a job that pays over 100k right out of college, otherwise, like you said, I'm better off working on my own company and staying with current employer. Is it tougher to be promoted in med/pharma with a business degree instead of bio/science? Or do numbers speak for themselves?

The degree is irrelevant but seriously, you thought you'd land a job paying over $100,000 right out of school? People have busted their asses to get these positions and you think you have the experience because you worked in college? I love you kids (which is all you are right now) coming out of school assuming you can step into a job like this without any experience. Your "trophy generation" mentality makes you think you are worth it. Be happy you can make your $80K in three years and then come see us.

 

[Anonymous]

The degree is irrelevant but seriously, you thought you'd land a job paying over $100,000 right out of school? People have busted their asses to get these positions and you think you have the experience because you worked in college? I love you kids (which is all you are right now) coming out of school assuming you can step into a job like this without any experience. Your "trophy generation" mentality makes you think you are worth it. Be happy you can make your $80K in three years and then come see us.

Amen! I was thrilled to be making 50k 2 years out back in 2004. Made multiple moves and have been making over 130k last 5 years. It's fine to have high goals to make a lot directly out of college, but if you're not willing to make some sacrifices first you don't deserve it. One other thing of course the numbers speak for themselves! You're interviewing for a sales job not medical school!

 

[Anonymous]

Business Degree means jack to them. I had a criminal justice degree and got in. It may not hurt you if you have a masters in business or management when you get in and try to get promoted but a guy with a degree in dishwashing who has knockout numbers year after year and kisses the right butt will beat an advanced degree every time.

Your degree just tells them what you know and what you know means squat to them because they will tell you everything that they think you need to know and nothing else matters.

 

[Anonymous]

I would try getting a job with a beverage company or a copier company first. that seems to be the route that most people took. good luck

Copier job, ADP, uniforms....basically what everyone is saying is to get a "cut your teeth" type sales job, something commodity product related. Those jobs really hone your selling skills because you are truly selling yourself. Most people work in them for a bit to pay their dues. For everyone top salesperson you see on a LinkedIn resume, you'll see at the very bottom one of these positions that they started in. Unless you're in the mob and you "know a guy", this is your path.

Another option to get into medical sales is DME (durable medical equipment), which is oxygen, CPAPs, nebulizers. Those companies will get you sales experience in a medical field, and if you can show solid sales growth then you can put that on a resume for your next move into a more clinical, technical sales role.

I love you kids (which is all you are right now) coming out of school assuming you can step into a job like this without any experience. Your "trophy generation" mentality makes you think you are worth it.

Chill out pops, OP is a new grad just asking a question.


Sincerely,
young whippersnappers everywhere

 

[Anonymous]

Chill out pops, OP is a new grad just asking a question.


Sincerely,
young whippersnappers everywhere[/QUOTE]


Ok smartass, newbie college boy can have your job.

 

[Anonymous]

Chill out pops, OP is a new grad just asking a question.


Sincerely,
young whippersnappers everywhere

Ok smartass, newbie college boy can have your job.[/QUOTE]

Sounds like pops has a personal problem with OP taking his job. The trophy generation he raised expects too much it seems

 

[Anonymous]

You Fucking dopes are giving advice????? You work for fucking Covidien!!!!!!!! You have no credibility or you wouldn't be working for shit ass Covidien! It's like asking interns how to become a CEO.

College Kid

Dont listen to any of these dbags the only shittier place in device is Ethicon.

 

[Anonymous]

You Fucking dopes are giving advice????? You work for fucking Covidien!!!!!!!! You have no credibility or you wouldn't be working for shit ass Covidien! It's like asking interns how to become a CEO.

College Kid

Dont listen to any of these dbags the only shittier place in device is Ethicon.

Okay, I won't take advice from them. You're advice is more insightful. Thank you for pointing me in the right direction. /s

 

[Anonymous]

College grad wants the 100k job out of college? Every Fortune 500 Company has current college grad programs you can look into. You also have to realize that Covidien isn't looking for the b2b rep as often anymore. They are hiring more candidates with med sales experience whether it's a direct sale or pharma. Company believes they can pick up the cream of the crop from other medical companies because it's Covidien. Not my words, an Area VP's.

 

[Anonymous]

does covidien do a gpa verification?