Can GEORGIA beat Boise State? GO DAWGS!!

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41 Days till College Football!!! We just have to suffer through a few more weeks of boring ass baseball... What does everyone think about the Georgia Bulldogs chances of beating Boise State? Vegas is saying that Boise will be favored by 3 points but they are playing The Dawgs in Athens. I really hope Georgia takes care of business and represents the SEC (The Superior Elite Conference) well. If Boise wins all we will hear from ESPN for the rest of the season is how Boise State can hang with the SEC and should play for a National Championship. Remember last season how Boise got so much attention and then threw up on themselves by losing to Nevada. It was a shame because ESPN should have paid more attention to TCU. I would love to see Boise play through the brutal SEC schedule, I would guarantee they would have at least 3 losses.
 






41 Days till College Football!!! We just have to suffer through a few more weeks of boring ass baseball... What does everyone think about the Georgia Bulldogs chances of beating Boise State? Vegas is saying that Boise will be favored by 3 points but they are playing The Dawgs in Athens. I really hope Georgia takes care of business and represents the SEC (The Superior Elite Conference) well. If Boise wins all we will hear from ESPN for the rest of the season is how Boise State can hang with the SEC and should play for a National Championship. Remember last season how Boise got so much attention and then threw up on themselves by losing to Nevada. It was a shame because ESPN should have paid more attention to TCU. I would love to see Boise play through the brutal SEC schedule, I would guarantee they would have at least 3 losses.

Yeah and three losses would give them a better SEC conference record than eight other teams last year so I'm not sure what your point is.
 












41 Days till College Football!!! We just have to suffer through a few more weeks of boring ass baseball... What does everyone think about the Georgia Bulldogs chances of beating Boise State? Vegas is saying that Boise will be favored by 3 points but they are playing The Dawgs in Athens. I really hope Georgia takes care of business and represents the SEC (The Superior Elite Conference) well. If Boise wins all we will hear from ESPN for the rest of the season is how Boise State can hang with the SEC and should play for a National Championship. Remember last season how Boise got so much attention and then threw up on themselves by losing to Nevada. It was a shame because ESPN should have paid more attention to TCU. I would love to see Boise play through the brutal SEC schedule, I would guarantee they would have at least 3 losses.

GA is ranked 8 out of 12 in the SEC right now. Boise St. will probably win.
 






I would have to agree with you Pale Horse. Georgia finds a way to throw up on themselves. This will be Boise's biggest game of the season. Then again if you don't count New Mexico, Wyoming and San Diego State as big games then playing Georgia is the fucking super bowl for them. Concerning Bama being beat by Utah a couple of years back, even the sun shines on a dog's ass every once in awhile. I would have liked to see Utah play Alabama's 2009 National Championship Winning Team. Remember the one that made Tebow cry and blew the Longhorns out of the Rose Bowl Stadium?

Teams like Boise use gimmicks (blue turf and blue uniforms) and play cupcakes for the majority of the season. Here's hoping to Boise losing to Georgia and that major College Football Powerhouse Nevada!! Go Wolf Pack Go!!!
 






41 Days till College Football!!! We just have to suffer through a few more weeks of boring ass baseball... What does everyone think about the Georgia Bulldogs chances of beating Boise State? Vegas is saying that Boise will be favored by 3 points but they are playing The Dawgs in Athens. I really hope Georgia takes care of business and represents the SEC (The Superior Elite Conference) well. If Boise wins all we will hear from ESPN for the rest of the season is how Boise State can hang with the SEC and should play for a National Championship. Remember last season how Boise got so much attention and then threw up on themselves by losing to Nevada. It was a shame because ESPN should have paid more attention to TCU. I would love to see Boise play through the brutal SEC schedule, I would guarantee they would have at least 3 losses.

One thing I can guarantee you BamainBreederBoy; the incidence of inbred, web footed offspring will increase 9 months after kickoff. You hillbillies get such a chubby about football and lynchings. Now go brush your tooth Jethro and dream of having a Saturday filled with college football and hangins"!
 






One thing I can guarantee you BamainBreederBoy; the incidence of inbred, web footed offspring will increase 9 months after kickoff. You hillbillies get such a chubby about football and lynchings. Now go brush your tooth Jethro and dream of having a Saturday filled with college football and hangins"!

OK!
 






Georgia and Alabama take pride in being the two states with the highest per capita number of inter-family marriages overtaking Mississippi and Kentucky.

Round of applause please! :D
 












I would have to agree with you Pale Horse. Georgia finds a way to throw up on themselves. This will be Boise's biggest game of the season. Then again if you don't count New Mexico, Wyoming and San Diego State as big games then playing Georgia is the fucking super bowl for them. Concerning Bama being beat by Utah a couple of years back, even the sun shines on a dog's ass every once in awhile. I would have liked to see Utah play Alabama's 2009 National Championship Winning Team. Remember the one that made Tebow cry and blew the Longhorns out of the Rose Bowl Stadium?

Teams like Boise use gimmicks (blue turf and blue uniforms) and play cupcakes for the majority of the season. Here's hoping to Boise losing to Georgia and that major College Football Powerhouse Nevada!! Go Wolf Pack Go!!!

Yeah, it's all about gimmicks. What's Boise State's record against Nevada over the past 10 years? Oh yeah, 9-1. The puppies finally get lucky (2 missed chip shots) and pull one out in overtime last season. PRICELESS!
 






41 Days till College Football!!! We just have to suffer through a few more weeks of boring ass baseball... What does everyone think about the Georgia Bulldogs chances of beating Boise State? Vegas is saying that Boise will be favored by 3 points but they are playing The Dawgs in Athens. I really hope Georgia takes care of business and represents the SEC (The Superior Elite Conference) well. If Boise wins all we will hear from ESPN for the rest of the season is how Boise State can hang with the SEC and should play for a National Championship. Remember last season how Boise got so much attention and then threw up on themselves by losing to Nevada. It was a shame because ESPN should have paid more attention to TCU. I would love to see Boise play through the brutal SEC schedule, I would guarantee they would have at least 3 losses.

Stop with your, “if they played in the SEC” BS. The SEC is great and as of late has been dominate in the BCS Title Games. But in reality the SEC West is the dominate side with Auburn, Alabama and LSU. Arkansas, save for a season here and there, Ole’Miss and MSU would be mediocre in every BCS conference except the Big East. Now take the top three in the weaker SEC East. U of F has been the only consistently dominate team. The other “top programs”, UGA (which hasn’t been relevant since Hershel Walker), Tennessee(who haven’t been a powerhouse in many years), are your “historical” power schools. The bottom three South Carolina, Kentucky, and Vandy are mediocre and would do no better in any other conference except again in the Big East, which we all know is a joke. Add the fact that for the most part the SEC programs schedule a lot of Sun Belt teams for non-conference games and most programs slip in a weak out of conference game towards the end of the season like UGA hosting New Mexico in November and the tough SEC schedule is more CBS/ESPN hype machine than reality. Couple that with the fact that each school misses two teams from the opposite division each year, like UGA not having Alabama or LSU this year makes the SEC schedule far more manageable than the hype machine says it is. It’s the best conference, no doubt about that, but to talk like it is some “super league” that no other schools from another BCS conference could compete week in and week out is BS. The top three schools in every BCS conference (except the Big East) would do just fine in the SEC.


Again if the SEC were some “Super Conference” they should never lose a bowl game and we all know that they lose bowl games every year.
 






Stop with your, “if they played in the SEC” BS. The SEC is great and as of late has been dominate in the BCS Title Games. But in reality the SEC West is the dominate side with Auburn, Alabama and LSU. Arkansas, save for a season here and there, Ole’Miss and MSU would be mediocre in every BCS conference except the Big East. Now take the top three in the weaker SEC East. U of F has been the only consistently dominate team. The other “top programs”, UGA (which hasn’t been relevant since Hershel Walker), Tennessee(who haven’t been a powerhouse in many years), are your “historical” power schools. The bottom three South Carolina, Kentucky, and Vandy are mediocre and would do no better in any other conference except again in the Big East, which we all know is a joke. Add the fact that for the most part the SEC programs schedule a lot of Sun Belt teams for non-conference games and most programs slip in a weak out of conference game towards the end of the season like UGA hosting New Mexico in November and the tough SEC schedule is more CBS/ESPN hype machine than reality. Couple that with the fact that each school misses two teams from the opposite division each year, like UGA not having Alabama or LSU this year makes the SEC schedule far more manageable than the hype machine says it is. It’s the best conference, no doubt about that, but to talk like it is some “super league” that no other schools from another BCS conference could compete week in and week out is BS. The top three schools in every BCS conference (except the Big East) would do just fine in the SEC.


Again if the SEC were some “Super Conference” they should never lose a bowl game and we all know that they lose bowl games every year.

The SEC Schedule is brutal for any team to finish undefeated in the regular season plus winning the SEC Championship. I disagree with your comments about weak out of conference SEC opponents. Georgia starts the year off playing Boise State so I think having a New Mexico on the schedule is alright because they play-Florida, Tennessee, Auburn, South Carolina. New Mexico is in between Florida and Auburn. Georgia also plays MS State which is no dog this year. Didn't MS State lay 50 points on Michigan?

Concerning traditional powerhouses like Florida and Tennessee they are improving and will be back especially Florida. Lane Kiffin fucked over Tennessee and they will be somewhat improved this year. South Carolina is no longer a bottom feeder in the SEC East since Spurrier took over. If you didn't notice they played in the SEC Championship Game (albeit poorly).

I think the SEC is a Super Conference because most teams have 6-8 tough games per year other than a Boise State which has 2. The level of competition week in and week out is unsurpassed by any other conference. The Big 10 comes close and I am impressed Nebraska joined the conference and they have a Big 10 Championship Game.
 






The SEC Schedule is brutal for any team to finish undefeated in the regular season plus winning the SEC Championship. I disagree with your comments about weak out of conference SEC opponents. Georgia starts the year off playing Boise State so I think having a New Mexico on the schedule is alright because they play-Florida, Tennessee, Auburn, South Carolina. New Mexico is in between Florida and Auburn. Georgia also plays MS State which is no dog this year. Didn't MS State lay 50 points on Michigan?

Concerning traditional powerhouses like Florida and Tennessee they are improving and will be back especially Florida. Lane Kiffin fucked over Tennessee and they will be somewhat improved this year. South Carolina is no longer a bottom feeder in the SEC East since Spurrier took over. If you didn't notice they played in the SEC Championship Game (albeit poorly).

I think the SEC is a Super Conference because most teams have 6-8 tough games per year other than a Boise State which has 2. The level of competition week in and week out is unsurpassed by any other conference. The Big 10 comes close and I am impressed Nebraska joined the conference and they have a Big 10 Championship Game.

BamaBoy I hear what you are saying and I don’t fully disagree, what I am saying is football is a grind no matter what conference you are in. There is so much hype(much of it deserved) around the SEC as a conference due to the big TV deals with ESPN and CBS so they both have become defacto marketing arms for the conference. Before the BCS came into existence the talk about “Conferences” never even came up. There we many big independents like ND and Penn State who were good and never needed a conference until the BCS. I never heard any of the SEC teams after winning a game 15 years ago start chanting S-E-C, S-E-C. The SEC has done a brilliant job of taking a great conference and great teams and marketing the hell out of it. It doesn’t take anything away from the SEC in doing so but sometimes you have to separate the hyperbole from reality. The reality is that there is virtually no way to compare whether it is a tougher grind in the SEC than say the PAC 12 or Big 12, and just because the talking heads at ESPN and CBS say it doesn’t make it true. My point is that the SEC on any given season has an additional 1 to 2 ‘power teams’ than the other BCS conferences. So does having one or two extra ‘power teams’, of which a team may or may not play both teams depending on the schedule, really make any conference that much more dominant top to bottom? I for one do not think so. It is currently the best conference because of the top 3 or 4 teams the remaining 8 to 9 on any given season are no more of a grind that the bottom 8 to 9 of any other conference. Let’s use the top four historical power houses in the SEC. Auburn, LSU, Alabama, Florida. I’ll even throw UT in since they have won a national championship in the BCS era. If you pulled any one of those schools and dropped them into any of the other BCS conference they would not run the table and win the conference every year, year in and year out. The top programs would find ways to beat them just like USC would drop games to Oregon State or Oklahoma would lose to OSU.

IMHO this whole conference things is so over exaggerated and has evolved due to the BCS BS! I played D1 football in a major conference and we never talked about “our conference” we talked about our team and our team only! The middle and bottom of every conference would be middle or bottom in any conference. Using this season if you dropped UGA, UT, Ole Miss, Vandy, UK, into the Pac 12, Big 12, Big 10 or ACC they would be not all of a sudden become great teams. They would still be mediocre.

Root for a team and not a conference.
 






BamaBoy I hear what you are saying and I don’t fully disagree, what I am saying is football is a grind no matter what conference you are in. There is so much hype(much of it deserved) around the SEC as a conference due to the big TV deals with ESPN and CBS so they both have become defacto marketing arms for the conference. Before the BCS came into existence the talk about “Conferences” never even came up. There we many big independents like ND and Penn State who were good and never needed a conference until the BCS. I never heard any of the SEC teams after winning a game 15 years ago start chanting S-E-C, S-E-C. The SEC has done a brilliant job of taking a great conference and great teams and marketing the hell out of it. It doesn’t take anything away from the SEC in doing so but sometimes you have to separate the hyperbole from reality. The reality is that there is virtually no way to compare whether it is a tougher grind in the SEC than say the PAC 12 or Big 12, and just because the talking heads at ESPN and CBS say it doesn’t make it true. My point is that the SEC on any given season has an additional 1 to 2 ‘power teams’ than the other BCS conferences. So does having one or two extra ‘power teams’, of which a team may or may not play both teams depending on the schedule, really make any conference that much more dominant top to bottom? I for one do not think so. It is currently the best conference because of the top 3 or 4 teams the remaining 8 to 9 on any given season are no more of a grind that the bottom 8 to 9 of any other conference. Let’s use the top four historical power houses in the SEC. Auburn, LSU, Alabama, Florida. I’ll even throw UT in since they have won a national championship in the BCS era. If you pulled any one of those schools and dropped them into any of the other BCS conference they would not run the table and win the conference every year, year in and year out. The top programs would find ways to beat them just like USC would drop games to Oregon State or Oklahoma would lose to OSU.

IMHO this whole conference things is so over exaggerated and has evolved due to the BCS BS! I played D1 football in a major conference and we never talked about “our conference” we talked about our team and our team only! The middle and bottom of every conference would be middle or bottom in any conference. Using this season if you dropped UGA, UT, Ole Miss, Vandy, UK, into the Pac 12, Big 12, Big 10 or ACC they would be not all of a sudden become great teams. They would still be mediocre.

Root for a team and not a conference.

I definitely agree with you. It would not have broken my heart last year if Oregon beat Auburn. Most people in the SEC pull for their team first then the conference. I think most people here in the South love the SEC because it is so dominant in College Football. I think it has more to do with identity than marketing.

This region of the country was rabid for college football before ESPN and College Game Day. Some of the largest stadiums in College Football are also in the South East (Yes I know of the Big House & Horse Shoe). We also don't have as many professional teams compared to the rest of the country. If you look at the rest of the country no other region has as much passion and crazy fandom as the South East.

REST OF COUNTRY:
North East: Baseball (Exception Penn State)
Midwest: NFL, NHL,NBA, College Football (Michigan & Ohio State)
Central: Texas= High School Football, NBL, NFL College Football (Texas, Oklahoma)
West Coast: Granola, Hiking, Surfing, Marijuana, NFL, (USC,Oregon) Great weather and natural beauty make this region of the country a tough place to stay inside and watch College Football on Saturdays.

My point is there are pockets of College Football fans in certain areas in every region of the country. ESPN and College Gameday are doing a good job of marketing College Football to the rest of the country. The South East is on lock down concerning College Football. People plan their lives around College Football in the Fall. There is a website out there called "i hate fall weddings"

Conference identity will grow nationally once the 4 (16 Team) Super Conferences are in the place. The first domino is about to fall with Texas A&M joining the SEC. I don't know if other parts of the country will have as loyal conference identity as we do in the SEC.

I also agree with you about no team in the SEC running the table in another conference every year. If you look at the past 5 years no one team in the SEC has run the table two years in a row. Conference strength of schedule is hard to gauge. I think teams in the major conferences Big 10, Big 12, Pac 12 and SEC all have tough schedules.

I think it is awesome that College Football is growing in other parts of the country like in Idaho and Oregon. I would have laughed if I was told 10 years ago that Boise State and Oregon would have great teams one day. College Football is growing and changing and the next ten years should be interesting to watch.
 
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I definitely agree with you. It would not have broken my heart last year if Oregon beat Auburn. Most people in the SEC pull for their team first then the conference. I think most people here in the South love the SEC because it is so dominant in College Football. I think it has more to do with identity than marketing.

This region of the country was rabid for college football before ESPN and College Game Day. Some of the largest stadiums in College Football are also in the South East (Yes I know of the Big House & Horse Shoe). We also don't have as many professional teams compared to the rest of the country. If you look at the rest of the country no other region has as much passion and crazy fandom as the South East.

REST OF COUNTRY:
North East: Baseball (Exception Penn State)
Midwest: NFL, NHL,NBA, College Football (Michigan & Ohio State)
Central: Texas= High School Football, NBL, NFL College Football (Texas, Oklahoma)
West Coast: Granola, Hiking, Surfing, Marijuana, NFL, (USC,Oregon) Great weather and natural beauty make this region of the country a tough place to stay inside and watch College Football on Saturdays.

My point is there are pockets of College Football fans in certain areas in every region of the country. ESPN and College Gameday are doing a good job of marketing College Football to the rest of the country. The South East is on lock down concerning College Football. People plan their lives around College Football in the Fall. There is a website out there called "i hate fall weddings"

Conference identity will grow nationally once the 4 (16 Team) Super Conferences are in the place. The first domino is about to fall with Texas A&M joining the SEC. I don't know if other parts of the country will have as loyal conference identity as we do in the SEC.

I also agree with you about no team in the SEC running the table in another conference every year. If you look at the past 5 years no one team in the SEC has run the table two years in a row. Conference strength of schedule is hard to gauge. I think teams in the major conferences Big 10, Big 12, Pac 12 and SEC all have tough schedules.

I think it is awesome that College Football is growing in other parts of the country like in Idaho and Oregon. I would have laughed if I was told 10 years ago that Boise State and Oregon would have great teams one day. College Football is growing and changing and the next ten years should be interesting to watch.

Great post Bama Boy. First I appreciate your balanced insight and POV, and I am enjoying our respectful banter back and forth - something rarely seen on CP!. Where I disagree with you is, I know for a fact that there are passionate college fans in other parts of the country. I grew up in PA and played for PSU, and I’d say Pennsylvania would rival any of the states in the south on a passion scale for college football. Back when I played Pitt was also very good along with WVU, Syracuse, and BC. To say the NE is not as passionate as the south is inaccurate. Something also of to note is that the historical football powerhouses in the NE were many of today’s D1AA programs. For instance many of the Ivy Leagues, and Army and Navy, etc. were yesteryears football powerhouses. So instead of an entire state getting behind either Auburn or Alabama, many of the NE states have their alums going to see Colgate vs. Bucknell or Harvard vs. Yale, not Penn State v. Indiana State. The passion of these fans are not readily seen on ESPN or CBS or Game Day. Today’s small schools in the south were never college powerhouses so the fans in those state are generally pooled to one of the major schools in the state. For instance if you went to Samford University you probably are an Alabama or Auburn fan. In PA if you went to Bucknell you may not necessarily root for Penn State you very well may only root for Bucknell, and be ambivalent to Penn State since you didn’t go there, but that does not mean you are any less passionate about college football it just means you are passionate about the school you attended and not the state powerhouse. Not sure if that is making sense or not but hopefully you get my point.

To try to put a metric on passion is impossible. Try having a wedding during the fall in Ohio, PA, Michigan, or Indiana/Illinois (because of ND back in the day) and you would be in trouble. Passion manifests itself in a variety of ways and the SEC has been on a serious roll as a conference so that in turn also breeds passion. Does So Carolina selling out even back when they sucked mean they are more passionate or does it mean their fan base either has nothing else to do or is too stupid and they support a bad product? I like fans who vote with their feet. To me that is passion! Right now we see a lot more of the SEC’s passion because of the extensive(and deserved) TV contracts. It’s really hard to define passion. Is passion the kids painting themselves head to toe in the school colors passion or stupidity? Is killing trees in Auburn passion or stupidity? Passion is displayed in a variety of forms, some subtle some not so sublte. To say that the SEC or the South is any more passionate that the NE or Midwest is tough to say.

Just so I’m clear I’m not saying the SEC is not passionate or that it is less passionate than any other region what I’m saying is that there is a lot of passion in parts of the country that may not be as visible or as demonstratively displayed as the SEC’s passion.

Where I do agree with you is your point of people wanting to identify with something like a conference or region. What I will say is it the hype and marketing makes it easier for people to want to identify with a good thing like ‘southern football” or the SEC. Where it is different is that “The South” has a very strong and continuous identity as a region versus any other region in our country. People in the NE will never say they are from the North or are Northeners. They will say they are from New England or the East Coast, or Boston or Philly or Brooklyn. Northerners do not have a common thread like the south so it is highly unlikely you would ever see PSU after a win against an SEC team chanting Big 10 - Big 10 (or whatever the hell our conference is called lol). The identity for us was the school not a region or the conference.

Sorry for my long post and my takes to you if you read this far! It’s just one of those pet peeves of mine when I hear people from the SEC say they are the most passionate fans out there.

Have a good one!

PSU Guy

BTW I hate to say this but I don’t think the Nittany Lions have a chance this weekend so I don’t even want to go there with you!
 






Great post Bama Boy. First I appreciate your balanced insight and POV, and I am enjoying our respectful banter back and forth - something rarely seen on CP!. Where I disagree with you is, I know for a fact that there are passionate college fans in other parts of the country. I grew up in PA and played for PSU, and I’d say Pennsylvania would rival any of the states in the south on a passion scale for college football. Back when I played Pitt was also very good along with WVU, Syracuse, and BC. To say the NE is not as passionate as the south is inaccurate. Something also of to note is that the historical football powerhouses in the NE were many of today’s D1AA programs. For instance many of the Ivy Leagues, and Army and Navy, etc. were yesteryears football powerhouses. So instead of an entire state getting behind either Auburn or Alabama, many of the NE states have their alums going to see Colgate vs. Bucknell or Harvard vs. Yale, not Penn State v. Indiana State. The passion of these fans are not readily seen on ESPN or CBS or Game Day. Today’s small schools in the south were never college powerhouses so the fans in those state are generally pooled to one of the major schools in the state. For instance if you went to Samford University you probably are an Alabama or Auburn fan. In PA if you went to Bucknell you may not necessarily root for Penn State you very well may only root for Bucknell, and be ambivalent to Penn State since you didn’t go there, but that does not mean you are any less passionate about college football it just means you are passionate about the school you attended and not the state powerhouse. Not sure if that is making sense or not but hopefully you get my point.

To try to put a metric on passion is impossible. Try having a wedding during the fall in Ohio, PA, Michigan, or Indiana/Illinois (because of ND back in the day) and you would be in trouble. Passion manifests itself in a variety of ways and the SEC has been on a serious roll as a conference so that in turn also breeds passion. Does So Carolina selling out even back when they sucked mean they are more passionate or does it mean their fan base either has nothing else to do or is too stupid and they support a bad product? I like fans who vote with their feet. To me that is passion! Right now we see a lot more of the SEC’s passion because of the extensive(and deserved) TV contracts. It’s really hard to define passion. Is passion the kids painting themselves head to toe in the school colors passion or stupidity? Is killing trees in Auburn passion or stupidity? Passion is displayed in a variety of forms, some subtle some not so sublte. To say that the SEC or the South is any more passionate that the NE or Midwest is tough to say.

Just so I’m clear I’m not saying the SEC is not passionate or that it is less passionate than any other region what I’m saying is that there is a lot of passion in parts of the country that may not be as visible or as demonstratively displayed as the SEC’s passion.

Where I do agree with you is your point of people wanting to identify with something like a conference or region. What I will say is it the hype and marketing makes it easier for people to want to identify with a good thing like ‘southern football” or the SEC. Where it is different is that “The South” has a very strong and continuous identity as a region versus any other region in our country. People in the NE will never say they are from the North or are Northeners. They will say they are from New England or the East Coast, or Boston or Philly or Brooklyn. Northerners do not have a common thread like the south so it is highly unlikely you would ever see PSU after a win against an SEC team chanting Big 10 - Big 10 (or whatever the hell our conference is called lol). The identity for us was the school not a region or the conference.

Sorry for my long post and my takes to you if you read this far! It’s just one of those pet peeves of mine when I hear people from the SEC say they are the most passionate fans out there.

Have a good one!

PSU Guy

BTW I hate to say this but I don’t think the Nittany Lions have a chance this weekend so I don’t even want to go there with you!

PSU Guy- Don't count Penn State out just yet. Bama is playing them in Happy Valley with 110,000 "white out," fans so you never know? Alabama recently has had issues with their QB play. We have a 2 QB system which is not working very well so far. Each QB (McCarron & Sims) had two interceptions each against Kent State last week. If both of these QB's throw 2 interceptions it will be a pick six against Penn State.

Us Alabama fans have A LOT OF RESPECT for PENN STATE. Last year when Penn State played in Tuscaloosa people went nuts over Joe Pa being here. You would have thought it was royalty coming to visit how people just wanted to see him. The local news media down here followed his every movement "not literally every movement" you know what I am saying.We have a good old healthy rivalry. Coach Paterno and Coach Bryant were friends and anyone close to "The Bear," is family to us. You also can't beat the classic uniforms each team has. I and many other Bama fans welcomed Penn State fans here last year and tailgated with them.

Alabama backed out of playing Penn State a few years ago when we were on probation. Penn State was gracious enough to wait for us to get our house back in order.

We are very appreciative for all of the help and support Penn State is showing toward Tuscaloosa after the Tornadoes hit back in late April. I was in Tuscaloosa today and some areas of the city are still in very bad shape and trying to recover. I have heard there has been lots of Tornado relief fundraisers up there for Tuscaloosa.

I agree with you "passion" is very hard to quantify. Killing Trees is absolute stupidity and is very embarrassing for us Alabama Fans. I can't explain South Carolina though? Something about Game Cock fans keep them packing into the stadium every Saturday? Maybe it's the hot South Carolina Coeds wearing "go cocks!" shirts.

College Football started in the North East (Princeton Vs. Rutgers) Princeton still holds the most National Championships of any other team in the country-26. I have traveled throughout the North East and there definitely are different regions like New England-The Mid Atlantic (New Jersey/New York City-It's Own Region). During my travels I found the people who lived there more into Pro-Football and Baseball so I do apologize for my ignorance. I am sure there are rabid College Football fans up there but they don't get the media exposure like the SEC. Rutgers had some really good coverage for awhile and I think that was really cool. Concerning College Sports us folks here in the South see the North East as a more dominant basketball area. No one can beat the Big East in NCAA Basketball.

Do you think a lot of the high school football players from the North East want to play in the SEC? A friend of mine from New Jersey told me that NJ is a great High School Football State but a lot of the kids want to go play down in the heat in Florida?

I could definitely see how it would be very annoying to a fan from another conference concerning the excessive media exposure the SEC receives during football season. Before the SEC dominance the past few years The Big 10 reigned supreme for many years. I think you will see the Big 10 make a come back by adding more teams when the conference expands again. I am really looking forward to the Big 10 Championship Game this December! I think we will see more changes coming for College Football like Conference Realignment and other dominant conferences. The SEC will not have a choke hold on the National Championship forever.

I also have enjoyed the dialogue. Please join us in picking the Major Matchups for this week. I will post them tomorrow night. I don't gamble but I like to pick for the fun of it. 1-2 is not a good start to the year for me so hopefully I will regain some ground this week.
 






Hey Bama Boy. Sorry for my delayed response…I’ve been swamped with kids back to school etc. Great game by the Tide in Happy Valley and there is absolutely a high level of mutual respect that we have for Alabama. I also think Sabin in a class act as, IMHO, The Tide could have easily hung 50+ on us last year and this year and Sabin having respect for JoePa seems to call the dogs off early and not embarrass JoePa.

I wanted to give you my thoughts on your questions because I think they are great ones. First oddly enough NJ does have some great HS football and usually has a few schools in the USA Today HS polls. NJ is one of the most densely populated states so it stands to reason that just by pure numbers you will have a certain number of great athletes. Unfortunately or fortunately, depending on the way you look at it, the Jersey kids don’t all grow up wanting to play for Rutgers, nor go there.. They get spread out amongst a variety of schools across the country. I think U SoCal at one time had the most kids from NJ on their roster than any other college except for PSU. I would say on any given season PSU will field a third or more of the team from NJ, as Rutgers can’t really compete with PSU recruiting wise. Sure Rutgers has had some success and they have kept a few top prospects but back in day PSU, PITT, WVU, VT, Syracuse, BC, Ohio State were the top schools the NJ kids end up. Today they go all over the country and rarely stay in NJ.

On your point about NE kids playing in the SEC or South. I think they would love to but the south is so stocked with talent in states like GA, FLA, and Alabama that Southern schools rarely need to go out of the region to recruit top talent. So unless you are top of the heap prospect in the NE I don’t think the southern schools bother all that much. Back when I played a lot of NJ/PA kids would wind up at U of Miami and FSU, so not SEC but southern. That has become less of the norm as again there really isn’t much of a need to go out of the region to get the top talent.

That brings me to my next point. The reason I think the SEC/Southern College football has been so dominate in the last 15 years or so is that there has been a major shift in the nation’s population from the NE and Midwest to the South and Southwest. Think about when PSU, ND, Michigan, Ohio State, Nebraska, Oklahoma were at the top of their game in college football. Sure Alabama some other SEC schools were great as well, but the SEC was not winning the national championship every year or even playing for it, nor did they have 6-8 teams in the top 25. With the population boom in the south you have far more athletes to pull from. This takes nothing away from the rabid ‘college football culture’ of the south, but just by pure numbers if you have more people you have more chances of having better players. When I took my visit to GT in the 80’s Atlanta was a one stop light town with nary a skyscraper. Now Atlanta and the metro area is one of the largest and fastest growing areas of the country. I visited the NC schools and back then Charlotte looked like a little town and now it is the banking capital of the country. Look at the manufacturing jobs. Those that are still in the USA are not in the “rust belt” anymore they are in the South and Southwest. The steel mill in my town was once the 2nd largest steel mill in the world and one of America’s largest employers. It went bankrupt in the 90’s and along with it all 100,000 plus blue collar jobs and workers where, for the most part, ‘football players’ are born from. Now that area has been gentrified and soccer is a big sport for these now upper-upper middle class white collar families. Look at all the mill, manufacturing, and auto plants that have closed in the NE and Midwest. Most of those jobs shifted to the South and Southwest…if they stayed in the country at all! There has been a population vacuum in the suburban/rural NE/Midwest where football players predominantly hail from. Inner city kids in Philly, Boston, NYC, Chicago, play basketball. Vertical cities usually don’t have big football programs. The sprawling southern cities with 100 miles radius sprawls like Atlanta, Birmingham, Charlotte, Miami(and all the other FLA cities), have big inner city and suburban football programs. I don’t think some cultural shift happened that made Southern Football so dominate lately I truly believe that the shift to and growth of the southern population is the key factor. More people means more high caliber athletes.

Again I really appreciate your insight as you really do know what you are talking about…growing up ‘Bama’ gives you the football pedigree to walk the walk and talk the talk!

I’m interested to hear your thoughts.

PSUGuy