Did anyone get informed that their territory would be converted to a BI position yet?
BI Rollover
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The smart Ventiv Pradaxa reps are leaving and going to work for Johnson & Johnson.
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- Walking Eagle Jun 22, 2011 at 07:10: PM
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Oh, you will definitely get rolled over......in the clover.
I'd much rather be working for JNJ than in Ventiv. Nothing is secure, but BI cannot seem to figure out what the hell they want the salesforce to do. Pradaxa has been approved for 8 months and it still feels like we are the Keystone Kops!!
First we get the email stating changes will be made and some VSR territories will be converted to BI and we would have to interview for them - cleaning house comes to mind - get rid of those they don't have anyother way to do so - thin out the herd
They let us stir with that overnight.
My EMR send out an email, that no one can read while we are at work unless you carry your k-fob, saying no territories under her govern will be affected.
So job yes - advancement - no - OK - status quo - still the bastard step children that we are.
Next, we here changes will take place but not as quickly as the rest of the nation - so we have to stew on that for a while until some magical date. Who knows when the heck will happen.
What a cluster this is!
If you can get out - run away....far away
The ride here may still become rewarding - I'm going to buy another ticket and see what happens.
Those of you who were able to jump on the rivaroxaban band wagon - good luck - enjoy the same hurdles we had for the first 8 months, although some of the early work has been done
They let us stir with that overnight.
My EMR send out an email, that no one can read while we are at work unless you carry your k-fob, saying no territories under her govern will be affected.
So job yes - advancement - no - OK - status quo - still the bastard step children that we are.
Next, we here changes will take place but not as quickly as the rest of the nation - so we have to stew on that for a while until some magical date. Who knows when the heck will happen.
What a cluster this is!
If you can get out - run away....far away
The ride here may still become rewarding - I'm going to buy another ticket and see what happens.
Those of you who were able to jump on the rivaroxaban band wagon - good luck - enjoy the same hurdles we had for the first 8 months, although some of the early work has been done
There'll be input from your current BI person as to whether or not you're asked to come aboard. If you're known in your area for not going to work, you're obviously not the ideal candidate. If you're not 'big pharma' material (looks and intellect (yes, I typed intellect)), ditto (we all know that Ventiv reps aren't usually the brightest or the most hard working bunch). Believe me, reps will talk with their DM and RM about you & about your reputation.
Just bc you're Ventiv and working with BI does NOT mean you're automatically going to be asked to rolL over full time. Earn your keep.
Just bc you're Ventiv and working with BI does NOT mean you're automatically going to be asked to rolL over full time. Earn your keep.
Rollover will still be a fixed duration situation, so does it really matter. BI is trying to prevent the massive turnover created by people leaving 'ventiv'
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Although they may be trying to prevent the turnover, they will not be able to. When I interviewed for the JNJ rivaroxaban position (they did the Northeast area of the country last) they asked if I had any idea why so many BI (and ventiv) reps from across the country submitted their resumes and interviewed w/ JNJ. They seemed concerned that so many people selling a dynamic new drug were looking to jump ship--was it the market or the company that was making people eager to leave?
Honestly, whatever company name BI puts on our business cards (BI vs. Ventiv) many of us will continue looking to leave to make more money, to receive better treatment, and to get managed by
capable leadership.
Oh thank you for your wisdom you hard-working and intellectually capable Ventiv representative. We should all aspire to be like you!!
I am in a primary care contract position through inventiv and the speciality rep deceided he wants to step down into my PC position. he said he likes PC enviroment better!
If they ok the transfer am I toast?
Could i potentially be hired as a BI employee if no one else wants it, or would they just move me as contract to that position?
If they ok the transfer am I toast?
Could i potentially be hired as a BI employee if no one else wants it, or would they just move me as contract to that position?
Bullshit. It is not a fixed duration position, it is full BI with all benefits etc. There IS life after Contract.
We dont want to be contract we want the good jobs. Why do you think we apply all over the place? To get the hell out of here. Tick Tock each and every day is one less for us. I will be lucky to get 2 years out of my contract. KMFA
You think working for BI is a good job? It might be better than working for Ventiv, but I would much rather be w/ JNJ or Pfizer or General Electric or JP Morgan or .....
How is the interview/rollover process going in different areas around the country?
So have the inVentiv reps that interviewed been hired or not?
This thing is f'g ridiculous. I didn't get rolled over, but a ventiv rep from a different state was. So now she needs to drive down into my state each day to see doctors? She has young kids--I don't see her being in territory at 8:30 and out after 5:00. I'm definitely looking.
EVERYONE on the BI contract is LOOKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Been looking!!!! Since Xarelto is getting afib indication in Sep.......Pradaxa is going to tank!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Big time!!!!!!!