BI Diabetes Final Exam

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I am scheuled to take this exam soon and then go to the International Diabetes Center in MN. Can anyone share experiences on both. I know that BI is known for tough training and hard exams. I also hear that the days at the IDC are long and that there are verbal assessments. Any input would be great. Thanks!
 






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I am scheuled to take this exam soon and then go to the International Diabetes Center in MN. Can anyone share experiences on both. I know that BI is known for tough training and hard exams. I also hear that the days at the IDC are long and that there are verbal assessments. Any input would be great. Thanks!
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MN training very difficult. Fail the final verbal assessment portion and you get a ticket home. Questions asked by seasoned diabetes educators/diabetes nurses. Verbal assessments are hourly in small groups. Very full days.

Final diabetes test the hardest I've taken during training.
 






OMG! Thanks so much for the heads up! I cannot believe we have to go through all of this for a "me too" third to market product. We'll never discuss 80% of this BS with any doc. Thanks again for your input.
 






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MN training very difficult. Fail the final verbal assessment portion and you get a ticket home. Questions asked by seasoned diabetes educators/diabetes nurses. Verbal assessments are hourly in small groups. Very full days.

Final diabetes test the hardest I've taken during training.
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Ease up. First BI training is not difficult it is reading and listening and taking a test! The training is first class and I think the training managers try to make it as "real world" as possible.

The diabetes final exam is not tuff! You will get a review sheet of key concepts before you take it. It has 50 items on it and there are 50 questions on the test hint hint. Be sure you write out the answers and know em cold. If you do you will ace it and be well prepared for the IDC.

The verbal assessment at the IDC center is just that. You get to talk your way through an answer to a question (3-4) asked by a member(s) of the IDC staff. AGAIN, you are given a key concepts sheet to know ahead of time and this is where the verbal questions will come from. Most of it can be filled out right when you get there without even attending the sessions because it is a review of the 10 modules you were tested on.

As far as a ticket home, hope the comment was a joke because the verbal is on the last day after lunch and you will be going home regardless. I do not know of anyone who did not pass the verbal. The training was excellent and should be a requirement for all people in diabetes sales!
 


















Anonymous said:
Ease up. First BI training is not difficult it is reading and listening and taking a test! The training is first class and I think the training managers try to make it as "real world" as possible.

The diabetes final exam is not tuff! You will get a review sheet of key concepts before you take it. It has 50 items on it and there are 50 questions on the test hint hint. Be sure you write out the answers and know em cold. If you do you will ace it and be well prepared for the IDC.

The verbal assessment at the IDC center is just that. You get to talk your way through an answer to a question (3-4) asked by a member(s) of the IDC staff. AGAIN, you are given a key concepts sheet to know ahead of time and this is where the verbal questions will come from. Most of it can be filled out right when you get there without even attending the sessions because it is a review of the 10 modules you were tested on.

As far as a ticket home, hope the comment was a joke because the verbal is on the last day after lunch and you will be going home regardless. I do not know of anyone who did not pass the verbal. The training was excellent and should be a requirement for all people in diabetes sales!
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Guys, this is training for contract. We know you are not quite the same. Training is scaled back so much from a real Pharma. training experience. Any ass wipe could show up and pass this shit.
 












In this case, the contract force is better than the current BI sales force. The contract reps were required to have documented successful experience selling in the diabetes market. Trust me when I tell you disease state knowledge is huge in this specialty. BI as a whole is already BEHIND the 8 ball on this one because of the inexperience of their current sales force selling diabetic meds. This is why they hired a few contract representatives AND signed the agreement with Lilly. You will be selling against DOMINANT players like Novo, Sanofi, Lilly, Merck, and others who have had a presence in this space for more than a decade and are well entrenched!

A recent example of this experiment is Pfizer. Very strong presence in hypertension, dislipidemia, etc . . . but not in diabetes (excluding GXL). They buy Nectar Pharma and roll out inhaled insulin. Effective, revolutionary, and easy to use. It was a major flop because of many things including no relationship/meaningful presence in the diabetes market, inexperienced sales force, doctors not willing to "tamper" with patients who are "well controled", and patients not wanting to try something new. BI is known for having a strong presence in certain disease states they own. I applaud them for the ageement with Lilly and hope it works because BI is a very good company.
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Guys, this is training for contract. We know you are not quite the same. Training is scaled back so much from a real Pharma. training experience. Any ass wipe could show up and pass this shit.
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