Be Careful what you ask for: RTBKPL

RTBKPL

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  • RTBKPL   Mar 06, 2011 at 09:34: AM
So I see that the courts have determined that we are/were not sales people and that the company improperly identified us as salaried employees. So what does this mean for the future for those of you still at Novartis?

Now let's face it. Sure we were asked to work a convention in the evening or on weekends occasionally, even to attend DPM's which required attendance at dinner at the end of the day, some of which could last beyond the standard 8 hour work day. (Notice that the company considered a work day to be 7.5 hours on my time) There was a time, perhaps my first 15 years when we actually worked all day and a good part of the evening at home. A 10 hour to 12 hour day was not uncommon and we really were putting in the time. We did so because the reward was there and it took time to produce results. That has not been the case in the last 10 years or so.

Obviously the company will require that you use the computer or blackberry as a time clock. You will be signing in and signing out and your time will be tracked. You will be paid hourly perhaps and since the court has declared that you are not selling anything there will be no need to pay you a bonus. Congratulations, you have shot yourselves in the foot. I wouldn't be surprised if the ubiquitous company car soon goes by the way side in an attempt to save money. Don't be surprised if like other companies, Novartis requires you to get a physician's signature even if you don't leave samples. Be sure to get one between 4 and 5 pm each day or they will question your time in the field. (this really annoys doctors and doesn't do anything to improve your image in their eyes.)

For those district managers who would always go home right after lunch, (and you know who you are Mike) your rectum is on the line too. While you might not be included in the hourly group, the continued decline in sales (excuse me but I don't know of another word to define them) personnel will mean less of you. For the record, no one would have informed on you because no one wanted to work with you beyond lunch anyway. BTW, Dr R always asks about you, "that disgusting, vile, miserable little man."

Yes there are aspects of this job that really blow, but I can assure you, those of you still at the trough that the trough is about to go empty. I hate to see that because some of my best friends still work at Novartis. Things will change, sometimes for the worse, hopefully sometimes for the better.

My advice is to use those overtime checks to pay for retraining and if you're young enough and have the interest I would advise you to investigate the position of Air Traffic Controller. You wouldn't believe what those bastards make and what their retirement is. Of course when I am on short final and thick in the soup I want my controller to be happy, healthy and well paid.

Have a great day/week my friends and remember…….

Never let the bastards get you down.

RTBKPL
 






So I see that the courts have determined that we are/were not sales people and that the company improperly identified us as salaried employees. So what does this mean for the future for those of you still at Novartis?

Now let's face it. Sure we were asked to work a convention in the evening or on weekends occasionally, even to attend DPM's which required attendance at dinner at the end of the day, some of which could last beyond the standard 8 hour work day. (Notice that the company considered a work day to be 7.5 hours on my time) There was a time, perhaps my first 15 years when we actually worked all day and a good part of the evening at home. A 10 hour to 12 hour day was not uncommon and we really were putting in the time. We did so because the reward was there and it took time to produce results. That has not been the case in the last 10 years or so.

Obviously the company will require that you use the computer or blackberry as a time clock. You will be signing in and signing out and your time will be tracked. You will be paid hourly perhaps and since the court has declared that you are not selling anything there will be no need to pay you a bonus. Congratulations, you have shot yourselves in the foot. I wouldn't be surprised if the ubiquitous company car soon goes by the way side in an attempt to save money. Don't be surprised if like other companies, Novartis requires you to get a physician's signature even if you don't leave samples. Be sure to get one between 4 and 5 pm each day or they will question your time in the field. (this really annoys doctors and doesn't do anything to improve your image in their eyes.)

For those district managers who would always go home right after lunch, (and you know who you are Mike) your rectum is on the line too. While you might not be included in the hourly group, the continued decline in sales (excuse me but I don't know of another word to define them) personnel will mean less of you. For the record, no one would have informed on you because no one wanted to work with you beyond lunch anyway. BTW, Dr R always asks about you, "that disgusting, vile, miserable little man."

Yes there are aspects of this job that really blow, but I can assure you, those of you still at the trough that the trough is about to go empty. I hate to see that because some of my best friends still work at Novartis. Things will change, sometimes for the worse, hopefully sometimes for the better.

My advice is to use those overtime checks to pay for retraining and if you're young enough and have the interest I would advise you to investigate the position of Air Traffic Controller. You wouldn't believe what those bastards make and what their retirement is. Of course when I am on short final and thick in the soup I want my controller to be happy, healthy and well paid.

Have a great day/week my friends and remember…….

Never let the bastards get you down.

RTBKPL

Another idea would be to take those checks and go to nursing school.
 






Check this out. DOn't think nurses can make this kind of money and retire at 50 with 20 years of service. Average pay of 109 thousand dollars a year.


Air traffic controllers earn relatively high pay and have good benefits. Median annual wages of air traffic controllers in May 2008 were $111,870. The middle 50 percent earned between $71,050 and $143,780. The lowest 10 percent earned less than $45,020, and the highest 10 percent earned more than $161,010. The average annual salary, excluding overtime earnings, for air traffic controllers in the Federal Government—which employs 90 percent of all controllers—was $109,218 in March 2009.

The Air Traffic Control pay system classifies each air traffic facility into one of eight levels with corresponding pay bands. Under this pay system, controllers' salaries are determined by the rating of the facility. Higher ratings usually mean higher controller salaries and greater demands on the controller's judgment, skill, and decision-making ability.

Depending on length of service, air traffic controllers receive 13 to 26 days of paid vacation and 13 days of paid sick leave each year, in addition to life insurance and health benefits. Controllers also can retire at an earlier age and with fewer years of service than other Federal employees. Air traffic controllers are eligible to retire at age 50 with 20 years of service as an active air traffic controller or after 25 years of active service at any age. There is a mandatory retirement age of 56 for controllers who manage air traffic. However, Federal law provides for exemptions to the mandatory age of 56, up to age 61 in certain cases, but controllers must have exceptional skills and experience. Earnings and benefits for controllers working in contract towers or flight service stations may vary. Many air traffic controllers hold union membership, primarily with the National Air Traffic Controllers Association.
 






So I see that the courts have determined that we are/were not sales people and that the company improperly identified us as salaried employees. So what does this mean for the future for those of you still at Novartis?

Now let's face it. Sure we were asked to work a convention in the evening or on weekends occasionally, even to attend DPM's which required attendance at dinner at the end of the day, some of which could last beyond the standard 8 hour work day. (Notice that the company considered a work day to be 7.5 hours on my time) There was a time, perhaps my first 15 years when we actually worked all day and a good part of the evening at home. A 10 hour to 12 hour day was not uncommon and we really were putting in the time. We did so because the reward was there and it took time to produce results. That has not been the case in the last 10 years or so.

Obviously the company will require that you use the computer or blackberry as a time clock. You will be signing in and signing out and your time will be tracked. You will be paid hourly perhaps and since the court has declared that you are not selling anything there will be no need to pay you a bonus. Congratulations, you have shot yourselves in the foot. I wouldn't be surprised if the ubiquitous company car soon goes by the way side in an attempt to save money. Don't be surprised if like other companies, Novartis requires you to get a physician's signature even if you don't leave samples. Be sure to get one between 4 and 5 pm each day or they will question your time in the field. (this really annoys doctors and doesn't do anything to improve your image in their eyes.)

For those district managers who would always go home right after lunch, (and you know who you are Mike) your rectum is on the line too. While you might not be included in the hourly group, the continued decline in sales (excuse me but I don't know of another word to define them) personnel will mean less of you. For the record, no one would have informed on you because no one wanted to work with you beyond lunch anyway. BTW, Dr R always asks about you, "that disgusting, vile, miserable little man."

Yes there are aspects of this job that really blow, but I can assure you, those of you still at the trough that the trough is about to go empty. I hate to see that because some of my best friends still work at Novartis. Things will change, sometimes for the worse, hopefully sometimes for the better.

My advice is to use those overtime checks to pay for retraining and if you're young enough and have the interest I would advise you to investigate the position of Air Traffic Controller. You wouldn't believe what those bastards make and what their retirement is. Of course when I am on short final and thick in the soup I want my controller to be happy, healthy and well paid.

Have a great day/week my friends and remember…….

Never let the bastards get you down.

RTBKPL

Why is it always "War and Peace" with you, RT? Brevity is the soul of wit!!! Oy, vey!!!