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How is the reorganization doing? Have you been told yet whether you are a B&L or a Valeant employee? Or was the reorganization just a few people at the top and a financial separation with Valeant for reporting only?

Not that anything a Valeant matters much. The only game in town is to make the next debt payment.
 






Bausch & Lomb is clearly being packaged up for sale. The problem is the only thing that remains is the brand name and the OK products that were developed by previous employees years ago. The remaining employees are just maintenance of business types that have been selected for their focused knowledge of a particular maintenance of business function. These people are a dime a dozen.

If B&L is purchased it will be purchased for its brand name and the few products that are left. In order to make the company viable again the slow maintenance of business corporate culture would have to be broken. New vibrant employees would have to be hired to replace the current staff to change the B&L culture and make the company viable again.
 






How is the reorganization doing? Have you been told yet whether you are a B&L or a Valeant employee? Or was the reorganization just a few people at the top and a financial separation with Valeant for reporting only?

Not that anything a Valeant matters much. The only game in town is to make the next debt payment.
There is no mistaking if you are a Valeant or B&L employee. The two groups have learned to get along but they have never blended and never will.
 






Bausch & Lomb is clearly being packaged up for sale. The problem is the only thing that remains is the brand name and the OK products that were developed by previous employees years ago. The remaining employees are just maintenance of business types that have been selected for their focused knowledge of a particular maintenance of business function. These people are a dime a dozen.

If B&L is purchased it will be purchased for its brand name and the few products that are left. In order to make the company viable again the slow maintenance of business corporate culture would have to be broken. New vibrant employees would have to be hired to replace the current staff to change the B&L culture and make the company viable again.
You wouldn't have to replace the current staff. They've been shackled to the maintenance of business on a shoestring model by Valeant for years. It's all about keeping the spending down to make the books look good. Most B&L people would welcome being sold and given a new challenge.

Many of the good employees that were let go by Valeant have been quietly filtering back in to the company. If B&L was sold to someone who wanted to bring back R&D, quite a few would gladly come back. Of course, some good ones were lost forever.
 






the only way Bausch and Lomb will ever be successful as an independent company is to go back and separate the business units. The integration and centralized R&D unit has resulted in nothing other than new owner after new owner with nothing other than me too products.
 






Bausch & Lomb is clearly being packaged up for sale. The problem is the only thing that remains is the brand name and the OK products that were developed by previous employees years ago. The remaining employees are just maintenance of business types that have been selected for their focused knowledge of a particular maintenance of business function. These people are a dime a dozen.

If B&L is purchased it will be purchased for its brand name and the few products that are left. In order to make the company viable again the slow maintenance of business corporate culture would have to be broken. New vibrant employees would have to be hired to replace the current staff to change the B&L culture and make the company viable again.
 







You imply that everyone left at B+L needs to be replaced by "...vibrant" employees, when in fact there are current employees doing everything in their power, within the very limited means and restrictions Valeant has shackled them with, who are desperately giving their all to make things work. To suggest they be replaced at a whim, as if they had no value or loyalty, is the very misplaced notion they bring no energy, ideas, or dedication to their jobs. Abandon ship when it is possibly sinking or stay and fight. I say fight.
 






I applied for a sales position but hearing a lot of different things. Should I go forward with the interview? I hear many of the managers are douches. Only serious responses please. This is my career and future we are talking about.
 












'Stay and fight'...those who stayed at Bausch and watched it be destroyed can hardly be those who fight...anyone who had the ability to do that moved on to another company to compete with valeant and beat them, whilst those who had no ability stayed and were just part of the sinking ship...share price $230 to $22, hardly a battle won..
 






if you have a job, keep looking else where. If you do not have a job, we'll do what you need to in order to pay the bills. Easier to look/get a job if you have one. Don't count on B+L being honest with you. It would be a check, but no place to be long term. Valeant ruined a once great company. Good luck.
 






if you have a job, keep looking else where. If you do not have a job, we'll do what you need to in order to pay the bills. Easier to look/get a job if you have one. Don't count on B+L being honest with you. It would be a check, but no place to be long term. Valeant ruined a once great company. Good luck.

And they're not done yet. People at B+L are acting more and more like Valeant people every day. That's because most know that any day could bring news of a deal that brings their job to an end.
 






You wouldn't have to replace the current staff. They've been shackled to the maintenance of business on a shoestring model by Valeant for years. It's all about keeping the spending down to make the books look good. Most B&L people would welcome being sold and given a new challenge.

Many of the good employees that were let go by Valeant have been quietly filtering back in to the company. If B&L was sold to someone who wanted to bring back R&D, quite a few would gladly come back. Of course, some good ones were lost forever.

funny funny funny B&L was a sinking ship YEARS before the Valeant takeover. Look at market share over 20 years.

One positive Valeant action was to push out a lot of flunkies who talked a big game, suffocated productivity and delivered NOTHING but hang on some peoples hard work. They could not hide in Valeant. Sure some good people left, but a lot of dinosaurs got pushed out too. Some are slithering back to work for their flunky bosses who will use the Valeant excuse for a few more years of under performance. If they are coming back, it is because they have been saved by somebody who needs an old reliable comfort blanket. Maybe they were surprised when they went elsewhere and were expected to deliver results ?

Joe Papa needs to watch out. Don't believe all the "it's Mike Peason/Valeants fault" excuses Joe. Valeant cleaned out a lot of dead wood too.
 






if you have a job, keep looking else where. If you do not have a job, we'll do what you need to in order to pay the bills. Easier to look/get a job if you have one. Don't count on B+L being honest with you. It would be a check, but no place to be long term. Valeant ruined a once great company. Good luck.
Can't blame the demise of Bausch on Valeant. The only reason Valeant bought Bausch was because it was a has-been with nothing to offer beyond the short term. That's their model, their specialty. They milk the last few years of patents and livelihood.
 






Did you get the position?
Welcome to a place where most people are miserable and the leadership is very poor.
Of course the leaders are the smartest people on the planet and have an attitude.
You will be full of anxiety and cry like a baby when you go to sleep at night.
Even though they act and talk like used car salesman. It is kinda a joke and funny
 












So Bausch was bad before valeant bought them, and all the pearson/valeant stories are false?
Today valeant is $30, Basusch was over $60 when bought...so valeant made Bausch better?
Get real, valeant destroyed Bausch and all the good people left..
Valeant people are losers who work under an atmosphere of hostility and penny pinching..all of them I met before leaving were looking to get out..
 






I applied for a sales position but hearing a lot of different things. Should I go forward with the interview? I hear many of the managers are douches. Only serious responses please. This is my career and future we are talking about.

I was offered a sales position there and turned them down. the hiring mgr. was a great guy BUT then I flew to Florida from what West Coast to meet the VP the building was ancient and depressing and the VP was an asshole. When HR called me to ask why I didn't take the job I said "the VP of sales is an asshole" and they laughed because they knew the answer before I said it.